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Re: SA 50

Unread post by balston11 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:20 pm

I can't help and if no one on here can help you could contact Sean via his website he will know.
Website contact page is http://superaxe.vanpolanenpetel.net/The ... ge_id=1095
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Re: SA 50

Unread post by Buzzard » Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:28 pm

SA-50 partslist
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Re: SA 50

Unread post by TheSupposedStringMeister » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:27 pm

Buzzard wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:28 pm
SA-50 partslist

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Much better quality if you would have put up a link to that page on my website :)

Lee60 wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:10 pm

Hi all,
Happy to find this group! I just purchased a red SA-50 with a missing pick guard. Is there anyone here who can provide a tracing to have a new one made, or have an extra for sale? Also, does anyone know if the bracket is proprietary, or if there is an aftermarket bracket that will work? Thank you!!!

Lee
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Sure, got your email. Posting about a new guitar is not acceptable without pics....

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Re: SA 50

Unread post by Lee60 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:40 pm

TheSupposedStringMeister wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:27 pm

Sure, got your email. Posting about a new guitar is not acceptable without pics....
Obligatory pics (from the shop's website):
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Re: SA 50

Unread post by Lee60 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:00 pm

... a bit of ugliness:
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These replacements look like Gotoh's from the 70's/80's, and are probably decent quality... but all those holes and damage are killing me. I think I might swap them out with these Hipshot locking tuners with a mounting plate to cover the holes:

https://hipshotproducts.com/collections ... headstocks

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Re: SA 50

Unread post by balston11 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:04 am

Looks great but as you say the holes in the back are distracting in the extreme
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Re: SA 50

Unread post by hypercarrots » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:13 am

These are sa30 style as opposed to the covered sa50 style but it's closer to original than what's on there now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/372059246733

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Re: SA 50

Unread post by balston11 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:09 am

Might be very hard to get the correct tuners in your place I might try and do a deal for the SA30s style ones
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Re: SA 50

Unread post by TheSupposedStringMeister » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:46 am

balston11 wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:09 am
Might be very hard to get the correct tuners in your place I might try and do a deal for the SA30s style ones
Seems a hefty price... I have got stacks of these and you really need to mix and match them to select some decent ones. I have replaced most of my SA30 and SA50 tuners with these as they are a perfect fit for the original holes and are very good tuners:

https://www.amplifiedparts.com/products ... ntal-3side

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With your headstock I would plug all the holes, then stain to match headstock, bit of varnish and then drill new holes. You will be surprised how much better it will look.

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Re: SA 50

Unread post by Lee60 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:07 pm

TheSupposedStringMeister wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:46 am
With your headstock I would plug all the holes, then stain to match headstock, bit of varnish and then drill new holes. You will be surprised how much better it will look.
Thanks for the suggestions! Those Grovers do look pretty close to the original SA-30 tuners. It looks like there would only be 1 exposed hole per tuner if I use them. Few quick questions about how you'd do that repair: Would you use toothpicks/glue or filler putty to fill the holes? And what specific stain and varnish would you use?

I'm considering doing a "drop fill' repair to a deep dent on the back of the neck.
IMG_1706.JPG
As you can see, there's a tiny bit of exposed/unstained wood visible in the damaged area. I've read that using food color dye mixed with alcohol is a good solution for small wood repairs. I'm considering super glue for the fill, followed by carefully shaving/sanding/buffing. Would this method work well to stain/varnish the exposed tuner holes??

Lee

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Re: SA 50

Unread post by balston11 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:24 am

You can google this and find lots of options nail varnish is quite commonly used,
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Re: SA 50

Unread post by balston11 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:41 pm

TheSupposedStringMeister wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:46 am
balston11 wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:09 am
Might be very hard to get the correct tuners in your place I might try and do a deal for the SA30s style ones
Seems a hefty price... I have got stacks of these and you really need to mix and match them to select some decent ones. I have replaced most of my SA30 and SA50 tuners with these as they are a perfect fit for the original holes and are very good tuners:

https://www.amplifiedparts.com/products ... ntal-3side

Image

With your headstock I would plug all the holes, then stain to match headstock, bit of varnish and then drill new holes. You will be surprised how much better it will look.
Sean
That's interesting does that tuner fit all early SAs? I had an issue with a YSG which I bought with horrible replacement locking tuners and when you look at the correct ones they look the same as the SGs. I had a spare set of Yamaha SGs but the shafts were the wrong size strangely the answer turned out to be a set of PRS tuners from an SE Santana which fitted perfectly down to the hole postioning. I guess a lot of these tuners are made by Grover or others and rebranded you just need to find the right one.
Bill
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Re: SA 50

Unread post by TheSupposedStringMeister » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:22 am

Lee60 wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:07 pm
TheSupposedStringMeister wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:46 am
With your headstock I would plug all the holes, then stain to match headstock, bit of varnish and then drill new holes. You will be surprised how much better it will look.
Thanks for the suggestions! Those Grovers do look pretty close to the original SA-30 tuners. It looks like there would only be 1 exposed hole per tuner if I use them. Few quick questions about how you'd do that repair: Would you use toothpicks/glue or filler putty to fill the holes? And what specific stain and varnish would you use?

I'm considering doing a "drop fill' repair to a deep dent on the back of the neck.
IMG_1706.JPG
As you can see, there's a tiny bit of exposed/unstained wood visible in the damaged area. I've read that using food color dye mixed with alcohol is a good solution for small wood repairs. I'm considering super glue for the fill, followed by carefully shaving/sanding/buffing. Would this method work well to stain/varnish the exposed tuner holes??

Lee

The Grovers are absolutely a perfect macth and fit on SA20, SA30 and SA50 without any mods. Don't use filler, find the right size timber (or bamboo) skewer and plug and (super) glue. Note, even in the same batch of skewers, you will find different diameters so find the best match. You will need to experimet with stain but mixing food colours will work. I haven't mixed it with alcohol.

Drop fill repair for the ding in the neck is the way to go. Like Bill says, check out some youtube vids before you start

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Re: SA 50

Unread post by TheSupposedStringMeister » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:51 am

Lee60 wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:10 pm
Hi all,
Happy to find this group! I just purchased a red SA-50 with a missing pick guard. Is there anyone here who can provide a tracing to have a new one made, or have an extra for sale? Also, does anyone know if the bracket is proprietary, or if there is an aftermarket bracket that will work? Thank you!!!

Lee
Los Angeles, CA (soon to be Portland, OR)
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You can find the pickguard trace here:
http://superaxe.vanpolanenpetel.net/The ... nt_id=1523
I hope to put up some photos and details on bracket as well.
Yamaha use a 5 ply material and it is bevelled at 45 degrees to expose the two white layers.
Let me know how you go.

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Re: SA 50

Unread post by hypercarrots » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:54 am

There's a nice sa5 on reverb right now listed as an sa50

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