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AMAZON AD interferes with QuickLink AND Forums Dropdown

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The Amazon AD seems to be masking out the phpBB menus at the top of the Page . . . .

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It interferes with the <Quick Links> dropdown AND the <Board Index> Drop Down



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Re: AMAZON AD interferes with QuickLink AND Forums Dropdown

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parametric wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:45 am
The Amazon AD seems to be masking out the phpBB menus at the top of the Page . . . .


Advert interferes with dropdown.jpg


It interferes with the <Quick Links> dropdown AND the <Board Index> Drop Down



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Hi!

I actuallly just wanted to report that exact same issue which is rather annoying. I"ve seen it on both the "Prosilver" and "Elegance" themes.

This is for sure one thing I would reactivate the Adblocker for on any other site i visit.

Also on a minor note, after logging in, I no longer see the custom YM banner and only the text phpbb. I've only checked this on the Elegance theme so far.

i can also mention I'm mostly using mobile (Firefox in Android) browsing the forum and will verify using the browsers on my PC as well (Chrome, Firefox).

EDIT: While I was testing the banner issue I actually first saw the phpbb text but later yamahamusicians.com so I guess Saul is working on it?
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Re: AMAZON AD interferes with QuickLink AND Forums Dropdown

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This only happens on older styles and unfortunately, there is no way around it at the moment. I am definitely not removing the only source of revenue the site has.

People who subscribe won't see any ads so that is one way of sorting it. The other way is to switch to the site's default theme as that is more modern and well suited to ads.

I will look at modifying the old phpbb prosilver theme and elegance but if there is no way around it I will default the site to more modern themes that support ads.

This is how the site looks on my mobile:
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...and this is how the forum displays on my 27" iMac.
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Re: AMAZON AD interferes with QuickLink AND Forums Dropdown

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Ok Saul . . . .

I have reset to "Elegance" which works ok.

I thought ProSilver was the default?

I only see the pic of you with the guitar @ Yamaha before I log-in . . . .

No matter - Elegance doesn't have the masking problem I was having - so all is good . .

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Re: AMAZON AD interferes with QuickLink AND Forums Dropdown

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parametric wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:45 am
The Amazon AD seems to be masking out the phpBB menus at the top of the Page . . . .


Advert interferes with dropdown.jpg


It interferes with the <Quick Links> dropdown AND the <Board Index> Drop Down



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Re: AMAZON AD interferes with QuickLink AND Forums Dropdown

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I have never set Prosilver as the default for this site because it looks ancient and is missing features. However, I know a lot of people who have been using forums for years still want to use that style so I left it as an option. All new visitors to the site will always see the we_universal style which is the one that best suites the forum at the moment and is fully compatible with the latest version of phpbb. For one thing, the important links such as Your Posts, New Posts, Unread Posts, Unanswered Topics and Active Topics are always visible at the top right and not hidden in a drop-down menu, unless you are on mobile of course.

The same goes for the links to the FAQ, Search and Members which are always visible at the bottom left of the header image.

There are always logo issues with Prosilver too which really annoys me. And the move to using a .svt file was just plain dumb! I would bin it all together but people like what they like so what can you do?
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The we_universal style looks pretty good to me! (Y)
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Re: AMAZON AD interferes with QuickLink AND Forums Dropdown

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puremusic wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 12:46 pm
The we_universal style looks pretty good to me! (Y)
I also switched to we_universal and it works as expected.

Good to have this thread as reference if users wonder why the ADs interfer on certain themes.

I'm not questioning adding ads to help cover some cost of the site but they really take up much realestate on mobile screens, unfortunate for me.

I think I can manage/endure though...

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Saul wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 9:29 am
I will look at modifying the old phpbb prosilver theme and elegance but if there is no way around it I will default the site to more modern themes that support ads.
Hi Saul,

I actually found one more issue on mobile that you might want to look closer at in we_universal.

In firefox, when clicking the ad above the YM banner, The top 50% of it send me to the actual site the ad is pointing to and the lower 50% back to YM main page depending on where I press on the AD.

I tried it in firefox in windows as well and saw that the YM banner link overlaped just a tiny bit on the ad above when at 100% but more after scaling up the overlap get worse and the 50% overlap is reach at about 200% scale.

The YM banner is shown correctly below the ad all the time and it looks like this could this be some css/div issue when scaling which also affect mobile.
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Feel free to use this info if you think it's worth "fixing".

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Thanks, Macke. The ads are "supposed" to be responsive but obviously are not. I think tweaking placement might work so will have a play around with the settings.

Nothing is ever straightforward with phpbb :/:
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Saul wrote:
Thu May 14, 2020 8:44 pm
Thanks, Macke. The ads are "supposed" to be responsive but obviously are not. I think tweaking placement might work so will have a play around with the settings.

Nothing is ever straightforward with phpbb :/:
Yeah, this was something I at least thought might be worth looking into. It would be sad for you to miss out on ad-clicks just because of a overlap like this.

My knowledge about phpbb is quite limited but like most software there is always room for improvement.

Hope you get it sorted with minimal effort.

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I have changed the placement of that advert now and at least as far as I can tell, looking at the forum on my mobile it has sorted that issue with the overlap?

The responsive nature of the ads though, well that is another matter that needs more investigation.

I have been using phpbb since not long after the first version appeared back at the end of 2000. I can't say it has ever been a smooth ride! Updating has always been a bit clunky, unlike WordPress where the update is done from within the admin interface, phpbb requires downloaded files, uploaded files, re-uploading changed files, making sure permissions are correct and editing core files to get the simplest of things done. There are extensions now of course, but they are problematic in themselves. Often not maintained so become either unusable or they cause oddities in how the forum operates. It is all a bit of a dogs dinner but it works...sort of ;)

The main area where phpbb has fallen behind is in its built-in feature set. These days forum owners are often under pressure to cover hosting costs and provide value for members. Other forum systems are either built around that or have adapted and they provide out of the box features that are either not available in phpbb of very difficult to implement.

I'll get there eventually :)
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