Full Concert Grand sounds different in Voice Mode compare to Song Mode on MOXF SEQ

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Full Concert Grand sounds different in Voice Mode compare to Song Mode on MOXF SEQ

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Hello Everyone.

In Song Mode on Moxf Sequencer solo playing Full Concert Grand has more echo or delay or reverb than in a Voice Mode.

It is normal?

I have a default settings plus Inspiration in a flash library. I compare without pressing sustain pedal on the same settings...



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I noticed now that Rev-X Hall is changing with R3 Hall ... Do you have the same?



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Re: Full Concert Grand sounds different in Voice Mode compare to Song Mode on MOXF SEQ

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dominikem wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:21 am
In Song Mode on Moxf Sequencer solo playing Full Concert Grand has more echo or delay or reverb than in a Voice Mode.

It is normal?
The System Effects (reverb and chorus) are not normally copied when the Voice is placed in a Part of a Song (or Performance or Pattern).

See motifator.com/index.php/forum/viewthread/471778

Although written about the Motif XS, these support articles cover the basic concepts:
motifator.com/index.php/support/view/insertion_effects_differ_from_the_system_effects
motifator.com/index.php/support/view/copying_voice_data_to_a_performance_or_mixing_program

Also see:
motifator.com/index.php/support/view/motif_xs_parameter_with_voice


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Re: Full Concert Grand sounds different in Voice Mode compare to Song Mode on MOXF SEQ

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I came across this "Strangeness" with my Alesis Fusion too . . . .

All the Programs (Alesis-speak for Voices) have their own FX applied . . . .

When you use a bunch of them in a SONG, the first one decides the FX for that song.

You can of course go in there and alter the Song's FX to your liking later . . .

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Re: Full Concert Grand sounds different in Voice Mode compare to Song Mode on MOXF SEQ

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Thank you very much for help.

Even when is only one instrument (Full Concert Grand) in Song Mode and only piano play, it must be a different reverb in compare to the same piano in Voice Mode?

If with my Moxf is something wrong? :

Moxf show in Voice Mode on the screen that Full Concert Grand reverb is Rev-X Hall but is R3 Hall in my opinion (I compare with others pianos). When I change in Voice Mode Rev-X Hall to R3 Hall - nothing change in sound Full Concert Grand, but when I back to Rev-X Hall - sounds different like in a Song Mode.

Moxf show me Rev-X Hall in a Voice Mode Full Concert Grand, but play R3 Hall... Do you have the same?



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Re: Full Concert Grand sounds different in Voice Mode compare to Song Mode on MOXF SEQ

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Your MOXF is functioning normally. The effect name alone means very little. There are a lot of Parameters that can be set for each of the effects. Switching from one effect to another sets the Parameters to default values.

The first Motifator URL I provided explains how to copy System Effects from a MOXF Voice to a Performance Part, and the same procedure applies to a Part in a Song Mixing. If you haven't already done so, I suggest that you copy the URL, paste it into your browser, and read the information. Also see Mixing Job [F3]COPY > [SF2]VOICE on page 120 of the MOXF Reference Manual. Be sure to set the Reverb and Chorus SEND values in the Mixing as well.


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