Montage - Maximum Output before Distortion

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Montage - Maximum Output before Distortion

Unread post by vertig0spin » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:44 pm

There was a side topic discussed in the MODX Forum, and I am hoping someone that owns a Montage can answer this more definitively for me. See the side conversation at the bottom &/or read the MODX Forum posts from this link:
viewtopic.php?f=186&t=11830&start=105#p72544

Based off that side conversation, my basic question is:
1 - If half the sounds that are playing (i.e. all the sequenced stuff) are routed through the additional outputs of the Montage & not through the main L/R outputs(whereby only non-sequenced sounds that you play on the keyboard at a gig, go through the main L/R outputs), does this still all count against the total output governed by the dB tool, whereby it could potentially be driven into distortion/clipping? Or does the dB tool govern the additional outputs differently than the main L/R and they are basically two separate output streams that allow for more total output volume without distortion/clipping..!?

Additional question:
2 - Is there a global limiter or loudness maximizer effect that can be applied on everything & potentially stop any clipping/distortion before the sound goes to the output ports?


________________MODX Forum discussion posts__________________

"GADoug60 wrote:
Increase the gain to a pro level output. The output gain is too low. BEEF IT UP!!"

"Stevie18 wrote:
There is a software option for doing that. In Utilities -> Audio I/O set the output level to +6db or more. That should do it."

"pax-eterna wrote:
You gotta be careful with that though. I noticed quite a few performances, particularly when more than one is sounding, of the outs getting driven into distortion."

"vertig0spin wrote:
Could this possibly be less of an issue on the Montage if half the sounds or maybe just the sequenced stuff is routed through the additional outputs & not the main L/R outputs..!?"

"pax-eterna wrote:
Possibly but I doubt it, unless the additional outs of the Montage are not governed by the dB tool."
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Re: Montage - Maximum Output before Distortion

Unread post by vertig0spin » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:09 pm

Turns out that sending half the parts (1-8) in a Performance to the "Main L&R" output and the other half of the parts (9-16) to the "Assign L&R" output would in fact be two completely separate output streams that would not touch at any point at either a software or hardware level. So sending all the sequenced tracks using parts 9-16, would help allow you to avoid software clipping/distortion, because you potentially only have max. 8 parts sounding at once instead of potentially 16! So, for my purposes, this is another reason why it's better that I go with the Montage instead of the MODX for max volume/headroom at live gigs!

The limit that could most easily be hit/clip/distort is at the software/metering level. It's far more likely it will clip there than at the DA converter or the analogue output/pre-amp stage.
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