Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

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Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Shortfinger » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:46 am

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My LS-TA is a week old and came Fedex from a dealer one state away and a five hour drive.

It’s brand new, and while a beautiful instrument, it’s action is too high.

I’m going to take it to a luthier to see what can be done, but I’m thinking a combination of less neck relief, and less height at both nut and saddle is needed.

Has anyone else experienced this? Can we expect to see a shim under the saddle?
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Re: Setup?

Unread post by Saul » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:53 pm

First up, welcome to yamahamusicians.com :)

How high is the action? Measured at the first fret it should be around 2.5mm and at the 12th approx 4-5mm

I wouldn't do anything with the neck right now. It should not need adjusting. Also you should let the guitar settle a bit. Temp fluctuations play a part in this and of course there is the "getting used to the guitar" part of the equation.

I have had guitars before that I initially thought were not going to be to my liking but after a couple of weeks playing it's amazing how you adjust and adapt :)
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by randyj » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:46 am

Mine came the same exact way (Kraft Music) Worst setup on a new guitar that I ever experienced - strings literally riding on top of the nut and honestly the neck angle looks a tad compromised and the thing is brand new. I'm going to send mine out to try and have straightened out.
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Saul » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:51 am

randyj wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:46 am
Mine came the same exact way (Kraft Music) Worst setup on a new guitar that I ever experienced - strings literally riding on top of the nut and honestly the neck angle looks a tad compromised and the thing is brand new. I'm going to send mine out to try and have straightened out.
Hi randy and welcome to the site.

I think if it were me and the guitar arrived as badly setup as you said I would be sending it back. If that has made it through "quality control" you have to then start wondering if they are properly checking the guitars at all. Each one should be individually set up before it leaves the production facility.

Any chance you could attach a photo of the setup? Take a pic from the side of the neck showing the height of the strings and how they are not seated in the nut correctly? I can then get on to Yamaha about it.
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Andreas67 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:04 pm

good morning, my yamaha ls ta has this action.
pressed the 1 and the 14 key this is the measure at 12.
it's perfect for me. I'm very satisfied with this guitar.
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Saul » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:52 am

Hi Andreas, welcome to yamahamusicians.com :)

Thanks for sharing those photos. 2-3mm at the 12th fret is going to be about perfect. Just shows that not all these TransAcoustics have high action out of the box...assuming that is the action as it arrived and not something you have set up yourself?
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Andreas67 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:09 am

Hi Saul, this action is original.
I did not touch anything. In my previous message I wrote that I pressed the 1st and the 14th but I was wrong to write. This measure was made at the 12th key without pressing any other nut. The guitar with original factory action is tuned on the whole handle.

I am Italian and to write I used a translator. I hope you understand.


Ciao Saul, questa action è originale.
non ho toccato nulla. Nel mio precedente messaggio ho scritto che ho premuoto il 1 e il 14 tasto ma ho sbagliato a scrivere. Questa misura è stata fatta al 12 tasto senza premere altri capotasti. La chitarra con action originale di fabbrica risulta intonata su tutto il manico.

Sono Italiano e per scrivere ho usato un traduttore. Spero si capisca.
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Andreas67 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:18 am

By holding down the 1 and the 14 key, a sheet of paper is passed to the 8 key.

In my opinion the original guitar setup is perfect.

The guitar sounds very good

Tenendo premuto il 1 e il 14 tasto, al 8 tasto passa un foglio di carta.

A mio parere il setup della chitarra originale è perfetto.

La chitarra suona molto bene.
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Saul » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:29 am

I understand just fine Andreas. Google Translate is doing a good job at the moment :)
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Andreas67 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:35 am

Finally place a video of the passage of a sheet of paper at the 8th key. To do this I pressed the 1 and the 14 key. Forgive the quality of the video.
I have performed the verification myself.

Per finire posto un video del passaggio di un foglio di carta al 8 tasto. Per fare questo ho premuto il 1 e il 14 tasto. Perdonate la qualità del video.
Ho eseguito la verifica da solo.

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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Saul » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:05 pm

Thanks for sharing the video. It gives a clearer idea of what the action looks like :)
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Buzzard » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:16 pm

Andreas67 wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:04 pm
good morning, my yamaha ls ta has this action.
pressed the 1 and the 14 key this is the measure at 12.
it's perfect for me. I'm very satisfied with this guitar.
Hi, a late welcome to the forum and the string section. :D

Thanks for posting pictures and video, looks to me that your guitar is well adjusted.
Unless YOU think the action is too high, keep it as it is and see if you want it changed later on.

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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Andreas67 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:52 pm

Hi, I will leave everything as factory.
The guitar is perfect ...
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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Buzzard » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:55 pm

Andreas67 wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:52 pm
Hi, I will leave everything as factory.
The guitar is perfect ...
Good call :D

Sometimes I scratch my head wondering why some folks want to mod their guitars before giving it a fair evaluation.

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Re: Yamaha LS-TA Action Too High?

Unread post by Andreas67 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:06 pm

This LS TA I have owned for 8 months. I've never wanted to change it because it's just perfect.
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