Yamaha DG60-112

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Yamaha DG60-112

Unread post by bluesbreaker » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:19 am

I have owned this monster of an amp for 5 years now, and I am still discovering what this thing can do tonewise. Sorry, I am not a pro.
I bought it new, since that music shop had kept it in the warehouse for almost a decade. In fact, that place still has plenty of underrated treasures to be discovered. Not even the owner knows exactly what he has inside that place, since he doesn't have a proper database to track his storage. For the time being, in the shop there are a AES502 with mini buckers, a PAC312, and a couple of acoustics, all MIT. There are other Yammies laying down in the warehouse for sure, but as mentioned, the owner already lost his track, so you have to tell him the EXACT model you are looking for, and make sure you wanna buy it.

Ok, back to the DG. All we know there are 2 channels, 4 amp models for each, and each amp model there are 2 voices. So we have: Clean 1 and 2, Crunch 1 and 2, Drive 1 and 2, Lead 1 and 2. To my taste I prefer the 1s, so far the only 2 I find useful is clean 2. Of course it is good enough already considering I paid around USD200 new only..........
And that brings me what exact amp models the DG were after. I know DG didn't exactly emulate specific amps, but just gave a hint to the styles of certain ones. It is obvious that Lead1 is after British hard rock (Marshall and Orange), while Lead2 has an American voice like a certain Boogie. Thus, for years I have an impression that the 1s were after British amps and the 2 were their american counterparts. Until I saw this:

http://faq.yamaha.com/us/en/article/mus ... /802/6885/

Since I am not a pro hence my experience with all these classic tube amps is very limited, and the youtube clips are not that convincing due to compressed signals. But.......both cleans are Fender Twins? I thought Clean 1 was like Roland Jazz Chorus. Crunch 1 as Vox Ac30? I never heard any "chime" in that. Drive 1 as Fender Bassman? I thougt it was driven AC30. Drive 2 as Fender Twin again? I never thought the Twin had any crunch at all. Anyway, what do you guys think?

Also, I wonder if the MIT DG-60, DG60FX and DG Stomp have different chips or whatever comparing to the bigger, MIJ brothers? The Lead 1 can sound a little digital if the eq setting is a little wide, and the Lead 2 is even worse: very digital sounding. I find myself going back to Lead 1 if I wanna play some metal riffs. Do the japanese models had the same tonal characteristics?

My DG60 can be a little picky with pedals. The effect loop seems to dislike analog pedals (Guyatone Flanger), however with Boss it is love at first sight. If you plug the dirt pedals it seems the overdrive ones fair much better than the distortion ones. The Crunch modes are the friendliest with dirt pedals, to my ears I prefer Crunch 2 for that.

That's it for now. Any opinion is welcomed. XD.
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Re: Yamaha DG60-112

Unread post by Buzzard » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:42 pm

Thanks for finding the link giving Yamahas definitions of the 8 amp models. ((i))

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DG Series Amp Models:

1.) Lead 1 - Marshall

2.) Lead2 - Soldano

3.) Drive 1 - Fender Bassman

4.) Drive2 - Fender Twin

5.) Crunch1 - Vox AC30

6.) Crunch 2 - Matchless

7.) Clean 1 - Fender Twin Nasal Silverface

8.) Clean2 - Fender Twin Full Blackface

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Whether or not the amp models are spot on is absolutely a matter of taste,
but I managed to get some REALLY COOL sounds out og my DG-units.

At the moment, I have following DG models:
DG-stomp (and the AG-stomp for acoustic guitars)
DG-1000 (two of them)
DG-100 212(A)
DG-130h(A) (head) + S-412v cabinet + MFC-10 midi controller.

I also used to have a Yamaha DG-80 210A, but sold it again, since it was almost like the DG-212 212, but with less bottom end.

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Re: Yamaha DG60-112

Unread post by Buzzard » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:52 pm

Here's a hi-res picture of the DG-60 112 twin panel.

yamaha-dg60-112.jpg

..... and just for good measure, here's the manual:

dg60-112_1.pdf
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Re: Yamaha DG60-112

Unread post by bluesbreaker » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:38 pm

Hi Peter,
Thanks for the feedback! It is true that being spot on or not is not that important since there are great sounds to be found. I managed to get the Joe Satriani, Santana, 80's Def Leppard and Van Halen, and Allan Holdsworth tones with just the Lead 1 alone. With Drive 1, I got some 70's rock sounds with a little help from my Boss OD-2 and DOD250, including Eagles and Queen. Lead 1 and Drive 1 are my fav modes to fiddle with.

I have a question though: Do the Japanese made DG amps use different chips in the preamp system comparing to the Taiwanese made ones (DG60, DG60FX, DG Stomp)? I read in the Yahoo DG group that under the same setting, DG80's tone is more natural than DG60's. Do you happen to know anything about it?

I would love to get the DG80. But I need the DG Stomp first for practical reasons. Oh well.................

P.S.: Even with the DG60, which has the most basic layout, one needs some time to find the tones that sounds good. What a big difference it makes with the addition of Presence and Hi-Mid knobs!! :!:
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Re: Yamaha DG60-112

Unread post by Buzzard » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:12 pm

bluesbreaker wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:38 pm
I have a question though: Do the Japanese made DG amps use different chips in the preamp system comparing to the Taiwanese made ones (DG60, DG60FX, DG Stomp)? I read in the Yahoo DG group that under the same setting, DG80's tone is more natural than DG60's. Do you happen to know anything about it?
Nope, I don't know if the if the chip hardware is different in the MIJ vs the MIT models, but I can't imagine why those should be different.
I believe that the yahoo DG group has more info to offer, after all, they are die hard fans, with many years of collected knowledge. :wink:

When I use my DG stomp, it's usually as a multi pedal unit with whatever amp I choose to use.

My DG-100 212a and DG-130ha are mainly used by themselves without other effects,
except the DG-1000 that can be used with almost any amp or active speaker.
All these units have the motorized dials, and I'm absolutely thrilled by this cool but useless effect.

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