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Re: The New Yamaha THRII Series Amps

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Hello everybody,

my name is Chris. I am new to this board and really looking forward for nice input and insights from you guys. I'm a huge fan of my trusty THR 10 and about to pull the trigger on the new THR 30 II w. Today I read the end of the new manual online, where the modelled amp list is described. Not beeing that much of gear head I am now wondering what real amps these descriptions exactly referr to? To me it seems like they are not the same as in the old 10/10c/10x amps - or maybe the are just in another order, could that be? May anybody with more knowledge of the listed amps enlighten me?

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ck1981 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:16 pm
I am now wondering what real amps these descriptions exactly referr to?
To me it seems like they are not the same as in the old 10/10c/10x amps ,
or maybe the are just in another order, could that be?
May anybody with more knowledge of the listed amps enlighten me?
Hi Chris, welcome to the forum and the string section. :D

Yamaha are careful not to mention any brand names of the amps modelled,
but the amps in the THR-II models are not identical to the older THR-5/10/10C/10X75A models,
even though some represent the same brands/types, they are probably upgraded a bit.

At the moment I don't have a list telling what's what, but here is a copy paste from page 19 in the THR-II manual.

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THR-II Amp Modeling List
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Classic
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Clean
A low-gain preamp for sparkling American-style cleans, with 6L6 tubes in the output stage
for brightness and a strong midrange.

Crunch
EL84 power tubes in a true Class-A configuration with a highly responsive EQ for rich,
complex harmonic tones and warm overdrive. Inspired by British chime.

Lead
A low-gain preamp with an EL34-based power section
that breaks into classic British overdrive as the master volume is pushed.

Hi Gain
Powerful modern distortion that fills out as the high-gain preamp is pushed.
Tread carefully after 12 o'clock.

Special
12AX7 and 6L6 tubes in pursuit of the "Brown" sound. Set the gain around 11 o'clock for classic rock crunch,
or crank it for saturated rhythm tones.

Bass
Woody, vintage tone with late breakup.

Acoustic
Designed for acoustic-electric guitar, modeling the response of a boutique condenser
microphone.

Flat
A neutral tone with no amp or speaker modeling. Great for connecting other instruments to
your THR.
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Boutique
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Clean
A low-watt EL34 design. Turning up the preamp gain will thicken up the cleans,
then push into bluesy overdrive.

Crunch
A deceptively simple amp circuit with just a single 12AX7 and EL84.
A full, no-frills tone that is highly responsive to picking dynamics.

Lead
A version of the Classic/Lead circuit, modified for extra gain with a darker tone and
scooped mids.

Hi Gain
ECC83s into 6L6s for high gain with a highly responsive EQ, inspired by German engineering.

Special
Four 12AX7 preamp tubes into 6L6 output tubes. Tight, fast tracking for crushing highgain.

Bass
Full, modern tone that breaks into a fuzz-like overdrive when pushed hard.

Acoustic
Designed for acoustic-electric guitar, modeling the response of a boutique tube microphone.

Flat
A neutral tone with no amp or speaker modeling, and a slight bass boost.
Great for connecting other instruments to your THR.
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Modern
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Clean
A boutique, low-watt EL84 design that adds fullness and sustain as the master volume is
turned up. A great match for neck pickups.

Crunch
A mid-volume boutique design with 6550 power tubes. Listen for tight bass response and a
singing sustain.

Lead
A high-gain design with 12AX7s into EL34s, for the tone that defined 1980s hard rock and
heavy metal.

Hi Gain
A boosted version of the Classic/Special amp, with even more gain for aggressive rhythms
or searing leads.

Special
A classic overdrive circuit before the preamp tightens low-frequency response and provides
even more gain. Ideal for extended-range guitars.

Bass
Vintage voicing with early breakup for overdrive that works well with bass or guitar.

Acoustic
Designed for acoustic-electric guitar, modeling the response of a boutique dynamic microphone.

Flat
A neutral tone with no amp or speaker modeling, and a slight mid scoop.
Great for connecting other instruments to your THR.
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Peter
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Hi Peter,

thanks a lot for your reply. That list you copied in here is the one I was talking about. I‘m sure for real gear heads it‘s pretty obvious which is which just by the description - but personally I‘m only able to recognize a few. Well, time will tell... I‘m really awaiting the sales start in Germany. About 2 more weeks from now on.

Chris

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THR-II patch library included in the THR Remote software.

:idea: You can only load the new file format: THR Presets (.thrl6p) :idea:
:idea: The old .ydp and .ydl files from the old THR Editor are NOT COMPATIBLE with THR Remote software. :idea: :/:

1. Open THR Remote software program.

2. Open main menu ( the one with the pictogram of a 3 guitars: guitar , bass , acoustic)

3. Select "Load factory preset"
Then you can pick any one of the 41 patches provided in the program.

The sounds have funny names, what they really are .... your guess is as good as mine. :roll:

1. EarlyVH
2. 90s Brown
3. 7str Riff
4. Chrispy Crunch
5. That Humbucker Dude
6. Paisley
7. Plexity
8. Lime Lighter
9. Silver Mountain
10. Experienced Rhythm
11. Emerald Clean
12. 101WB
13. Cranked Mini Box
14. He Came To Rock
15. FiftyOneFiftyTime
16. It Does Djent
17. Sunrise Lead
18. Twang Rhythm
19. Funky Rhythm
20. Know Your Friend
21. Hamamatsu Blues
22. Liquid Solo
23. Sweet Place
24. Rainy Day
25. Class A Chord
26. Tremolo Chord
27. High Gain 800
28. American Clean Combo
29. Fat Solo
30. Wet Solo
31. Single Crunch
32. Following Echo
33. Solid Chorus
34. Big Box
35. Stemo Canned Heat
36. Old School Slapper
37. Finger Bass
38. Rock Picking Bass
39. Acoustic 1
40. Acoustic 2
41. Acoustic 3

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At the moment I don't own a THR-II amp, so if any of the info given is incorrect, please let me know.

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Another but VERY informative THR-II demo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZvnJFJP-uk
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Hello,
I just got my THR30ii this last Tuesday, so I am needing instruction on how to open the patch files from the recent post. I am using an iPad and/or an iPhone to open the THR remote app, I know about the guitars menu button with the “download file” option, it results in a “no file found.” I found the factory presets, what is the method I should use to access the extra posted THRii files?

Thank you for the help,
Brian

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Gtroates wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:51 pm
Hello,
I just got my THR30ii this last Tuesday, so I am needing instruction on how to open the patch files from the recent post. I am using an iPad and/or an iPhone to open the THR remote app, I know about the guitars menu button with the “download file” option, it results in a “no file found.” I found the factory presets, what is the method I should use to access the extra posted THRii files?

Thank you for the help,
Brian
I wish i can tell you but I am still trying to figure out where to get a thr 30 in the US. All the store listings have them on pre order and I want to know how you got yours.

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Gtroates wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:51 pm
Hello,
I just got my THR30ii this last Tuesday, so I am needing instruction on how to open the patch files from the recent post. I am using an iPad and/or an iPhone to open the THR remote app, I know about the guitars menu button with the “download file” option, it results in a “no file found.” I found the factory presets, what is the method I should use to access the extra posted THRii files?

Thank you for the help,
Brian
This is easier done with a PC than with a mobile device, but if you can only do it with your iPad/iPhone, be aware that all downloaded files need to be accessed first from the Files app and then moved to the Presets folder in THR Remote.

- In the Files folder, open the Downloads folder and you'll see there all your downloaded files.
- When you find the relevant thrl6p file, keep pressing it until you get a contextual menu. There are several options.
- Choose either Copy or Move. You'll get a list of some of your installed apps.
- Tap THR Remote and then the Presets folder.
- Then just tap Copy in the upper right corner of the window.

Now, when you use the Load Preset menu option in THR Remote, you'll find the new presets there.

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Of course you can copy patch files to the storage space of your cell phone or tablet and send them to THRII via the THR-Remote app.
But you first have to find the correct folder on your phone or tablet, where THR-Remote expects the files.
Be aware, that THR-Remote creates this folder, when you save the first patch file using the App, not instantly when installing the app!

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“I wish i can tell you but I am still trying to figure out where to get a thr 30 in the US. All the store listings have them on pre order and I want to know how you got yours.”

I was able to get mine through Sweetwater Music, they told me it might take until April but then there was a shipment of them that came in to fulfill earlier orders and someone had cancelled their order before it was mailed to them. I lucked out and was able to get my THR 30ii early, I also ordered the carry bag and the wireless Line 6 unit but those will be coming later still.

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I just figured out how to do this on the iPad, it’s a bit of a process but it works. I got the “files” app from the App Store first, then I downloaded the THR ii sound files form this site and found them on the files app, then I dragged those files into the thr remote file folder and from there dragged them into the presets file folder. It works and will become easier as I continue doing it. Thank you for the files!

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Gtroates wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:33 am
“I wish i can tell you but I am still trying to figure out where to get a thr 30 in the US. All the store listings have them on pre order and I want to know how you got yours.”

I was able to get mine through Sweetwater Music, they told me it might take until April but then there was a shipment of them that came in to fulfill earlier orders and someone had cancelled their order before it was mailed to them. I lucked out and was able to get my THR 30ii early, I also ordered the carry bag and the wireless Line 6 unit but those will be coming later still.

Brian
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Cool you got it early. I just want to know if its worth upgrading from the original THR10. I love my THR10 but wondering if the rechargeable battery and wireless features are worth it.

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For the money, I'm going Katana all day over these Yamaha amps, but they do look like the right amp for certain players.

I honestly don't understand how Yamaha Music Group decides that one guitar amp is a Line6 product and another is a Yamaha product. Line6 is a Yamaha Company and their latest edition of the Spider is a kick-butt practice amp, but this Yamaha is also a modeling practice amp but isn't a line6 product but rather a Yamaha. I don't understand it. Is it a different group of people that make theYamaha non-line-6 guitar products and the line6 stuff? The Line6 Variax guitars are world-class and amazing, and the Yamaha Pacifica is a value-market leader in the electric market, and Yamaha acoustic guitars are world-beaters at the price-for-what-you-get, they are great value.

So it's a bit surprising to me that Yamaha can't hit the value button on these amps.

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I don’t like the sound of the Katana in comparison with the Yamaha THR 30ii, I did a lot of listening back and forth and the Yamaha just sounded better for my purposes. I used the option of paying for the Yamaha over 6 monthly payments instead of all at once which would be harder to budget for. I am a pro musician and wanted a great traveling amp for taking on the plane with me. I used to practice at night in my house with a giggng size amplifier and my pedal board but it was getting too loud for my late night practicing and I wanted loud amp sound at a low volume to not disturb neighbors. I first bought a THR 10c which I really liked but when Yamaha came out with the wireless versions with all the previous models sounds in one unit with Bluetooth aux input and rechargeable built in batteries, I saw those features as significant upgrades from the THR 10c and bit the bullet to buy the top of the line model. I use an iPad for writing and storing music for performing and practicing so I also liked the ability to change sounds from the app versus having to plug into a laptop or desktop which aren’t as handy to use on a mic stand clip on device like the iPad. I agree these new units are expensive, but I am glad I got mine, it does what I need it to do for my uses quite well.

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Gtroates wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:16 am
I don’t like the sound of the Katana in comparison with the Yamaha THR 30ii, I did a lot of listening back and forth and the Yamaha just sounded better for my purposes. I used the option of paying for the Yamaha over 6 monthly payments instead of all at once which would be harder to budget for. I am a pro musician and wanted a great traveling amp for taking on the plane with me. I used to practice at night in my house with a giggng size amplifier and my pedal board but it was getting too loud for my late night practicing and I wanted loud amp sound at a low volume to not disturb neighbors. I first bought a THR 10c which I really liked but when Yamaha came out with the wireless versions with all the previous models sounds in one unit with Bluetooth aux input and rechargeable built in batteries, I saw those features as significant upgrades from the THR 10c and bit the bullet to buy the top of the line model. I use an iPad for writing and storing music for performing and practicing so I also liked the ability to change sounds from the app versus having to plug into a laptop or desktop which aren’t as handy to use on a mic stand clip on device like the iPad. I agree these new units are expensive, but I am glad I got mine, it does what I need it to do for my uses quite well.
My thoughts exactly! I have a Katana 50 and one member of our band has a Katana Air. No comparison. Don’t get me wrong. The Katana series is amazing especially considering the price point of the big amps. But when it comes to sound, looks, convenience and customizability the Yamaha series is better suited for my needs.

And man, the 30 can get really loud. Played with our drummer yesterday and it sounded great. Wouldn’t probably gig with it though...

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