Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Stevie18 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:31 pm

I see. Let's see if Yamaha adds that. I would not bet on it, seems like a special case.

Another option might be to store the respective performances in two versions each, one with effects one without. Consider that you have 640 user performances and 8 x 640 library performances. Thus tons of space. Also there are lots of spaces for LiveSets.

It should also be possible to change the performances such that you use the assignable knobs, the superknob or the assignable buttons to switch the effects on and off on button press / knob turn. Maybe that's also an option for you.
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Jaap » Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:27 pm

Thanks, yep, seems like a special case, already made Performances without effects like you said. Happy with that, a dedicated button would make me more happy but if not hundreds of MODX-ers ask for that it’s ok.
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by dcjams » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:19 am

loop record in the performance recorder
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by vertig0spin » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:53 am

Please Expand KBD CTRL to 16 parts:

With the MODX and Montage, there is a limitation of KBD CTRL to just parts 1-8. What if you needed parts 1-9 or 1-16 in a Performance? Why should this be a limitation?
I have added a new idea on Yamaha Ideascale requesting this programming change so that they don't limit KBD CTRL to just parts 1-8, and open it to 1-16 if necessary. This is a software change, so it it very much possible and doable for Yamaha, as a future option.

If you agree and would like to see all parts in a performance have the ability to be set for KBD CTRL and play when you play the keyboard, then please "Up Vote" my idea on Ideascale as per the link below, and make your thoughts known on this forum as well:

https://yamahasynth.ideascale.com/a/dtd ... 3218-45978

(note that you need to have an ideascale account first before Up Voting, but the account is free)
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by josephdouce » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:22 pm

GHS Oversight

This was brought to my attention so I went into a store and tried it as I am planning to purchase the MODX8

It appears the performances were copy/paste from the montage and work great on the MODX6/7 however they overlooked the GHS on the MODX8. In an attempt to emulate the acoustic pianos, they have also tried to emulate the action for the NON-GRADED keybeds. This means on the MODX8 playing any note above G5 results in a dramatically increased volume for the same velocity.

Basically some of the performances need to be adjusted for the GHS to get a consistant sound. The issue is obvious when you compare the MODX7/8.
Once I purchase my MODX8 I plan to share my "fixed" performances". It would be an easy fix but would require a MODX8 specific update with modified performances.

It's not a MAJOR issue and can be fixed by the user by making user copies of the performances and fixing it but that's a lot of messing about. You can see how they have done it below, for example here switches 6&7 aren't necessary for the GHS keybed.

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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Xander » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:29 pm

Derek wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:55 pm
Hopefully these will apply to the Montage as well....
#1 Remove the restriction on MIDI so that you can set a MIDI channel for a part that will also act as the RX Channel as well as the TX channel
#2 Ability to select specific Live Set via MIDI (not just the Live Set Page and Live Set Slot).
In this segment, Yamaha lost the battle to Korg but might come back, especially because of the MODX. However, the MIDI channel restriction might become what stops the Montage/MODX from becoming that successful.

-You can’t control well enough how Yamaha sounds are played on an external keyboard: no splits, layers, etc.
-You can only play 8 parts at once on the Yamaha (or external one, in case you have set it to single midi mode)
-If you need it in multi mode, it means you can’t even play the CFX piano from an external keyboard (because the piano is build from multiple parts)

Oh the list can go on and on.

If, for whatever reason, it’s impossible for Yamaha to remove the restriction on MIDI channels, then at least create this option: Zones for external keyboards
-a Zone for each MIDI channel
-If MIDI channel 1-8 can’t be used for that, have 8 Zone-set-ups for channel 9-16.
-If multiple zones is too much, at least have one or more.

For instance: The Zone for MIDI channel 9 has Parts 1 & 10 layered, the Zone for MIDI channel 10 has Part 2, 3, 4 and 10 layered and split, etc etc.

I like the MODX8 that I have, but I doubt it will become that “one machine that I use as main synth for most set-ups”. That’s still the S90ES is for me. (I have 3). The MIDI issue on the MODX is what is keeping me from buying more MODX8’s, or any other Yamaha Montage/MODX synth.

Now a Kronos looks better for that job. And judging by the comments on the Korg Forums, it’s stopping many people there from buying the Yamaha’s as well.

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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Xander » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:42 pm

Jaap wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:38 am
Thanks Stevie18. This is an option, but actually I would be able per preset to bypass the internal effects, either from Category Search, Live Set (choose Performance from there and with one press bypass effects) or from the Performance screen. Reason is that I like to use Strymon Lex, Timeline and Bigsky but not always. I haven’t seen other members wishing this yet.
I miss the effect bypass button as well! Indeed not in the utility menu, my oh my!
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by mitya » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:50 pm

SO annoying is when you come to overwrite a user arp and you have to put in the same filename again every single time.

Say I want to save a user arp as arp 008. When I select 008 it should inherit the name of the existing 008 rather than making me retype the name.
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by mitya » Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:51 pm

A MIDI note editor a la Roland's FA series would be sweet, but I imagine that's beyond the scope of a simple firmware update.
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by pologuy » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:52 pm

Spend the extra $5 per unit and get rid of the cheap looking blue painted on circles around the 4 control knobs and at least make them lighted.

They don't have to be sweepers like the Montage - but at least make them light up a brighter blue when you touch/move them or something.

It really does "cheapen" the overall look of the otherwise nice looking MODX.
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by josephdouce » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:51 pm

mitya wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:51 pm
A MIDI note editor a la Roland's FA series would be sweet, but I imagine that's beyond the scope of a simple firmware update.
Actually its not, its Linux inside so nothing is beyond the scope of a firmware update (software based), and actually with a little hacking you can make your own, no one has dived any deeper then modding the preset performances but take a look here.

https://gist.github.com/bd03b8dbc3a9970 ... 7a20707a81

Tbh I'm surprised no one has made any more substantial changes, as soon as someone who's a musician/programmer gets hold of one of these the possibilities are endless and this is much more likely to happen with the MODX then the Montage.
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Saul » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:58 am

pologuy wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:52 pm
Spend the extra $5 per unit and get rid of the cheap looking blue painted on circles around the 4 control knobs and at least make them lighted.

They don't have to be sweepers like the Montage - but at least make them light up a brighter blue when you touch/move them or something.

It really does "cheapen" the overall look of the otherwise nice looking MODX.
This is probably something that will appear on the next generation of MODX. It is quite normal with Yamaha that the follow up receives some of the bells and whistles of the previous flagship product. Going to be a few years off though.
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Re: Better distortion effect MORE than required

Unread post by redglass » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:18 pm

n0rby wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:46 pm
Having used Yamaha Motif's for many years and now MODX, there is one thing which was never great and that is Yamaha's distortion algoritm. It makes all the tone wheel organs sound weak, the electric guitars awfull and some synth sounds just boring.

Please buy a better distortion algorithm and implement it in an upgrade!!
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I am sayng this as a long time advocate for, and user of yamaha. Compare to Nord or even checp organ clones and you'll know what I mean.
I totally agree as I tried to conect my strat to the input of the MODX, finding out that clean sounds work fine, but crunchy and distorted amp models sound useless and horrible. :roll:

Maybe Yamaha asks Steinberg to get amp modeling algorhythmns from Cubase like AMP RACK ? :idea:

But my first impression of the MODX8 after 2 months is very positive. Sound, weight, keybed, flexibility, wide range of functions and workflow are very good compared to it's competitors in a similar price range. :clap: Especially with John Melas Software package. Some software issues are mentioned already, hope Yamaha will fix them. :dance:

Best from a MODX newbee (former user of Motif ES and Clavia Electro)

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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by mitya » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:11 pm

One thing I find annoying is if you want to swap out a part in a performance for another part (via category search), it loses all the part's settings and replaces them with the default settings of the replacement part.

It would be nice to have the option of either.

Sometimes I have a part configured with arp, effect etc, and I just want to try that part out with a different instrument, but same arp, same effects.

For AWM2, I can technically get round this by changing the wav files in the elements, but that seems a bit hacky.
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by mitya » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:30 pm

Oh and while I'm here, a few others:

1) The ability to control any drum key via level sliders. Currently this seems to be possible only for the predefined drum keys in each kit. This is no use if I use an arp on that drum kit that uses keys other than the defaults. (See my separate post on this.)

2) Ability to control key ranges in the scenes editor

3) Ability to toggle arp part (i.e. on or off) via the scenes editor

4) Ability to go lower than 50% for arp unit (i.e. more than double the default tempo of the arp)

5) When recording, it seems to me if you want to play notes on the first (recorded) beat, you have to time the key ever so slightly late. So many times I've recorded something, then found that it didn't detect the first note, because it was deemed to be too soon, even though, on a human level, it seems bang on the beat. This needs to be relaxed in strictness, I feel. Or at least, some way of seeing when notes are registered. A midi editor would solve this - you could see as you played whether a given note had been registered or not.
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