Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Kal1n_M » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:57 am

redglass wrote:
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Saving backup files on USB device takes quite long, a few minutes in my case, so...
Incremental saving mode for user backup files!
Wondering if incremental backup is technically possible somehow.
It would save a lot time!
Backup files are saving everything, including the library content, that's why it may take extra time. That's useful mostly when you want to replicate setups over two or more synths. Speed is also limited by your USB drive speed...
For regular backups you can use User files, way more faster.
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Blakenstein » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:19 pm

I'm not sure if this has been addressed or not but I would like to suggest (or if any one knows how to do this already) - on the "Play/Rec" screen - Two things:

1. If you have multiple patches in your performance and you record a backing track using only say two of those patches. You disable the other tracks/patches to not trigger if you're going to play with the backing track. Tap "Store Song & Perf Settings" and it saves this. I've found when I did this, I power off the MODX, power it back on, load the song and all the tracks are enabled again! So I have to disable the ones that I don't want before performing. It's a bit of a pain to do this.

2. For the backing track that's recorded - somehow "link" the song to the performance name - it does show this at the top of the screen but I would like to be able to store the performance in the Live Set list - call up the performance and it auto-load the corresponding song.


On the Performance - Edit - Arpeggio:

3. The ability to be able to assign the same ARP settings to two or more different patches within the Performance. It seems when I assign one ARP setting to two more patches, it seems to only apply to one patch and the others switch to another ARP setting by themselves - a bit frustrating when you want to have multiple patches using the same ARP sequence.

4. "Real-Time" custom ARP creation and assignment to a patch in a Performance. The ability to quickly create a custom ARP on the fly, Loop it, add to it and assign to different patches within the Performance.


Old farts like me that are going blind:

5. Definitely would love the labeling of the rear ports on the top of the keyboard. Would be much easier to see this in a dimly-lit stage/gig environment while setting up!


Live Set Screen:

6. The "Live Set" page - of course I'm comparing this to my "Set List" feature on my Kronos but I would love to have a "Notes" section with say a character limitation of more than I think 24 characters or something like that. Don't need a type a paragraph but more than just a little one-liner at the bottom would very helpful for reminder of chord notes, changes, patch notes, etc for an old fart like me!

7. The ability to transpose the entire performance without having to go into each individual patch and edit the pitch.


I think that's it for now - until I dig into this more! If anyone knows how to do/create/setup/tips and tricks for the above 1, 2 and/4 above, I would greatly appreciate your wisdom! :)
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by vertig0spin » Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:47 pm

I don't think I posted this suggestion here, but if I did, I don't think there will be too many people who would mind and not want this wishlist item:

Expand KBD CTRL to 16 parts (or at least 12 maybe, but more than just 8 playable parts)

If you agree, feel free to up vote my idea on yamahasynth ideascale:
https://yamahasynth.ideascale.com/a/dtd ... 3218-45978

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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Stevie18 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:24 pm

Blakenstein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:19 pm
Old farts like me that are going blind:

5. Definitely would love the labeling of the rear ports on the top of the keyboard. Would be much easier to see this in a dimly-lit stage/gig environment while setting up!
That has nothing to do with going blind. You cannot see the labels from the top. On the Montage this has be done in a better way, so you can read it from the top.
6. The "Live Set" page - of course I'm comparing this to my "Set List" feature on my Kronos but I would love to have a "Notes" section with say a character limitation of more than I think 24 characters or something like that. Don't need a type a paragraph but more than just a little one-liner at the bottom would very helpful for reminder of chord notes, changes, patch notes, etc for an old fart like me!
+ 1
7. The ability to transpose the entire performance without having to go into each individual patch and edit the pitch.
+ 10. I made this proposal in various places, also on Ideascale. Did not get much love, yet. Please go there and vote it up...
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by parametric » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:52 am

Stevie18 wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:24 pm
Blakenstein wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:19 pm
Old farts like me that are going blind:

5. Definitely would love the labeling of the rear ports on the top of the keyboard. Would be much easier to see this in a dimly-lit stage/gig environment while setting up!
That has nothing to do with going blind. You cannot see the labels from the top. On the Montage this has be done in a better way, so you can read it from the top.
It's a small point, but becomes incredibly annoying EVERY TIME you connect it up - Which is going to be

OFTEN, if you are performing. . . .

For CHEAPNESS, it's the usual lettering moulded in relief in the same BLACK PLASTIC the Case is made of -

and that's where most manufacturers leave it . . .

You should NOT have to go in behind the board with a magnifier and a Torch to see what you are doing :naughty:

Sure, you will eventually LEARN where all the "Holes" are - but that's not a reason for NOT doing a decent job

in the first place.

BOTH my Fusions have the lettering in BLACK on the GREY (metal) Case, on the Top AND on the Back -

and they are 14 years old now.

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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Stevie18 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:04 pm

parametric wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:52 am
You should NOT have to go in behind the board with a magnifier and a Torch to see what you are doing :naughty:
Sure, you will eventually LEARN where all the "Holes" are - but that's not a reason for NOT doing a decent job in the first place.
100% agreed!
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Can » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:09 am

Hi,

that's my first posting in this forum :) Great thread! Here is my wishlist for future MODX software updates:

a) Live Set: Notes section for creating a longer (multi line) text that will be display when a performance is loaded. The current slot name is way too limited! (I need this to remember in which octave I need to start or for some chords or voicings)

b) Live Set: Two more edit functions: 1. Inserting an empty slot between too slots (which should move further slots by one) and 2. removing a slot (which should then close the gap). These are functions I really frequently need when creating live sets.

c) Chord Hold function: Sustains a chord (can also be one single note) until the next note is played. Nord Lead 3 has it, Nord Stage 2/3 has it, DSI OB-6 has it, Kronos can do it - and I really hope to get this too for the MODX because I often need to sustain string or pad chords while playing a solo over these chords on a different part or on a different keyboard. (Sustain pedal is not a replacement for that ;) This function should be accessible with the touchscreen to be able to easily switch it on or off. And the state should be stored within the performance - for each track. (Maybe you want your pad on track 1 to hold the chords while you switch to the piano or lead sound on track 2 and play a solo with that sound).

d) Scene should include KBD Control. That means I want to have a piano sound with some variations for the second or third chorus like an additional pad sound or an fifth or octave added to the piano sound. I know I could add them with the mod wheel, with Superknob or with XA Control (Assign Switch Off, Assign Switch 1 On, Assign Switch 2 On) but that's way to limited. So I really want to activate additional parts with scenes (because there are 8 of them!) :-)

e) Very important for session musicians: Nord calls it "Pending Load". Looking for a new sound (performance) while playing the old one and then confirm to load it when you need it. Maybe you are on a jam session and you're jamming one song, playing the verse (piano) and you know you need a organ sound 16 bars later. I couldn't find a way to search the categories and look for a sound without activating it immediately. When I found the sound I need I want to wait until the chorus and then click on it to switch to the new sound.

f) Extremely important :mrgreen: : Currently there's no way to switch off sending MIDI via USB globally. On my MoXF this is very easy: If I set the global MIDI send channel to "off" only performances that I explicitely want them to do send MIDI. I didn't find a way to do this on the MODX!! I would have to set Channel = off for every performance that I don't want to send out MIDI but of course this doesn't make sense. The background is: I use the MoXF with a Mac Book Pro running VSTi plugins and the MoXF works as an audio interface. This works great. But of course I don't want that every performance I choose sends out MIDI data and plays my GigPerformer instruments. I wan't to decide which performance send MIDI. This is not possible on the MODX like in my MoXF which means the MODX is not really practical as a notebook master keyboard solution. The MoXF is!

My workaround with the MODX was to configure the VSTi host (GigPerformer) so that it generally only responds to channel 9. That was the only way I can be sure that I don't accidentally trigger a notebook sound with one of the standard MODX performances.

I tested the MODX 6 in November, I had big expectations and I liked it very much. I often play TV and theater shows and I really want to replace my old MoXF with the MODX. But these (in my opinion very basic) things really kept my from buying the MODX so I kept the MoXF for now. And now I'm waiting for some more useful functional improvements :-)

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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Saul » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:31 am

Hi can, welcome to the forum :)

One of the great things about MODX and Montage is that they have quite flexible operating systems. Most of the features that people would like to see "could" be implemented in software, obviously within the limits of processing power and other resources. Whether Yamaha will implement a lot of these things is another matter. Perhaps they will save them for MODX 2 or whatever the next iteration of the keyboard will be.

MODX is a big step up from previous Yamaha keyboards though and I am sure there will be some updates coming soon :)
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by StorminNorman » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:57 pm

Miks wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:44 pm
Saul wrote:Would like to have the port identifications silk screened in white on the top facing back edge of the keyboard. Would save having to keep leaning over to check which port is which.
Apart from not owning a MODX myself this would make so much sense! Even my SY99 has this feature - so you can tell from looking at the front facing which connectors/jacks are located where on the back...
Great Idea Saul!
Just spent a couple of hours labeling the I/O on the top panel of the MODX.
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Unread post by Saul » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:10 pm

Well that certainly helps Norm but Yamaha should have got there first!

I was thinking perhaps a transparent silk screened plastic/acetate strip that could be clipped to the back?
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by vertig0spin » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:45 pm

1. Add [KBD CTRL] to SCENEs!!

I've submitted this to Ideascale, hoping that Yamaha will consider adding [KBD CTRL] to SCENES mixing area, so that we can switch Scenes with different layers and splits, without PARTs/Sounds getting cut off like they can with just using 'Mute'! This would basically allow for an SSS-like switching while changing scenes within the same performance. Currently SSS does not function within a single performance! It only applies when switching between two different Performances...

Please log onto YamahaSynth Ideascale and 'Up Vote' this idea if you would like to see this as a new feature:
https://yamahasynth.ideascale.com/a/dtd ... 0456-45978


Also, if/while you're there, please 'Up Vote' this idea as well. Who wouldn't like to have the option of layering more than 8 part strings/sounds/piano and be able to play it on the keyboard..!?


2. Expand KBD CTRL to 16 parts:

Please expand KBD CTRL so that it is no longer bound to parts 1-8. Change it so that we can have parts 1-16 available to layer/split/etc. at the same time all via KBD CTRL, so that we could potentially have 16 parts playable at the same time!
Even if they can change it to 12 parts, that would be awesome...

https://yamahasynth.ideascale.com/a/dtd ... 3218-45978


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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by vertig0spin » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:47 pm

Montage/MODX Pitch Bend micro Stepping-like Sound - Not 'Smooth'

Please fix the Pitch Bend functionality on the Montage/MODX to be more 'smooth' like it is on previous synthesizers, such as the Yamaha DX7II & most synths from the 80's!

The Montage/MODX synths' Pitch Bend has an increasingly noticeable micro or mini-Stepping like quality to it the higher/lower the pitch bend is set to on both AWM2 & FM-X PARTs. And even more noticeable the slower you bend the notes vs bending them faster. It is not smooth like on most older Synths (i.e. DX7ii).

I tested pitch bend on the 'Montage' using a Single PART Performance (FM-X) set to -12/+12.
I then took one of my single Voice Performances on the DX7II and set the pitch bend to -12/+12.
It is quite noticeable when compared side by side. The DX7 is Perfectly smooth with zero detection of any mini or micro-Stepping, no matter how slow or fast I bend the pitch. The Montage just sounds like it's micro-Stepping, but the faster I bend the less noticeable...the slower I bend the more noticeable.

Also, if I set the Montage pitch bend to -3/+3, it is much smoother and harder to tell the difference between the Montage and the DX7 set to the same -3/+3 pitch bend. If on the other hand I set the Montage Pitch Bend to -24/+24, it is very noticeable as mini-Stepping or fine-Stepping, and that much more noticeable the slower the bend; however even the fastest bend at that setting is still noticeable and not smooth! (Note that any and all FM-X & AWM2 PARTs on the Montage/MODX will reproduce the same issue...)

This is definitely something that Yamaha could and should fix, as I first noticed the issue when trying different electric guitar parts that have distortion for doing solos. They don't sound as close to a whammy bar dive bomb/bend as they could, because of the fine Step-like sound to the pitch bend, especially since some of the guitars are set well below -12 and closer to -24 or lower! Smoothing the Pitch Bend out would definitely improve the 'realism' with electric guitar solos on the Montage!

I would presume that this is doable/fixable and programmable, because if I set the Portamento on that same PART to a slower setting and go between notes that are 2 to 3 octaves apart, it is perfectly 'smooth' on the Montage/MODX and doesn't have that fine Stepping-like sound to the bending between notes that Pitch Bend does...!


(*Here is my new YamahaSynth.ideascale.com idea that I posted. Please 'Up Vote' if you'd like to see this fixed in a future OS release):

Montage/MODX Pitch Bend micro Stepping-like Sound - Not 'Smooth'
https://yamahasynth.ideascale.com/a/dtd ... 1136-45978

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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Saul » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:04 pm

Just wanted to add that the guys at Yamaha have been wading through this thread so please don't feel like your suggestions are falling on deaf ears. I know they probably cannot implement everything people want or at least not all in one update but we should see a few of these suggestions appearing in the next update.

So well done to everyone who has contributed to this thread so far ((i)) ((i)) ((i))
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by GuyDenruyter » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:28 am

A useful feature (not uncommon in synths) is to be able to choose the point at which a sample starts playing (preferably controllable by controls). This could be by specifying a nr of samples, but also by specifying a negative note on delay (parameter already exists bit currently no negative values possible).
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Re: Yamaha MODX Wishlist - Suggestions For Future Updates

Unread post by Richever » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:26 pm

I would like to see the assignable footswitch be more versatile, and the function be assigned to each performance instead of the entire live set. On the Motif XS7 you can assign various useful functions to the assignable footswitch ( including program change inc, program change dec and many more) for each performance.
Also, I would like to see the note shift (Pitch) within parts not be limited to plus or minus 24.
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