MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

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MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by modalmojo » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:26 am

Hi,

I only have minimal MIDI and audio hardware experience, hope the experts here can help me out.

I am planning to buy MODX6, and use my digital piano Roland FP-30 to control MODX6 (and likely one more synth in the future), FP-30 has:

USB Type B Computer port
USB Type A Memory port
Stereo 1/4-inch Phone Jack

What kind of MIDI equipment and Audio Mixer do I need to accomplish the task?

Thanks for the help! 0-)
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by anotherscott » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:41 pm

Since the FP30 does not have a standard 5-pin MIDI port, there is no way to connect it directly to a MODX (or almost any other keyboard). You can do it if you connect through a computer (or iPad/iPhone). There are also converters you can use:

hobbytronics.co.uk/usb-midi-converter

kentonuk.com/products/items/utilities/usb-host.shtml

excelvalley.com/product/midi-usb-din-converter/

compasflamenco.com/midi-c-3/usb-host-midi-2-p-6.html

thomann.de/gb/miditech_usb_midi_host.htm

thomann.de/gb/mode_machines_cerebel_usb.htm
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by FarHanSolo » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:49 pm

Once my MODX7 arrives later this month, I aim to hook it up to my Yamaha HS5 speakers and Roland FA-08 with a Yamaha MG10XU Mixer (I need to buy that too yet)

https://www.yamahamusiclondon.com/MG10X ... YAM-MG10XU

Perhaps, that is a mixer that could meet some of your needs
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by Kal1n_M » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:28 pm

Why don't you just route your FA-08 audio out thru MODX Audio input and bypass the mixer altogether? You can then control your FA-08 volume using the dedicated knob on MODX, use the MODX effects on it, the Motion Control, etc...
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by modalmojo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:11 am

Kal1n_M wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:28 pm
Why don't you just route your FA-08 audio out thru MODX Audio input and bypass the mixer altogether? You can then control your FA-08 volume using the dedicated knob on MODX, use the MODX effects on it, the Motion Control, etc...
Would I be able to route the Stereo 1/4-inch Phone Jack of Roland FP-30 (it is the only audio output...) thru MODX Audio input to output the Roland FP-30 sound thru the speakers connected from MODX? If not, what equipment should I buy in order to do that?

Thanks!
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by Stevie18 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:07 am

You would have to buy a little splitter cable which splits the stereo phone jack to two mono phone jacks. Then you go into the MODX. Then the sound of the FP30 sounds come out of the same output as the MODX sounds.

You can adjust the relative volume using the hardware knob and also program the FP30 volume using the MODX performance settings. You can also apply MODX effects to the FP30 sounds. Programmable per performance as well...
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by modalmojo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:31 am

Stevie18 wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:07 am
You would have to buy a little splitter cable which splits the stereo phone jack to two mono phone jacks. Then you go into the MODX. Then the sound of the FP30 sounds come out of the same output as the MODX sounds.

You can adjust the relative volume using the hardware knob and also program the FP30 volume using the MODX performance settings. You can also apply MODX effects to the FP30 sounds. Programmable per performance as well...
Sounds fantastic! Thanks for the advice! :clap:

Would I be able to route more than one synth thru MODX at the same time and use Roland FP30 as the midi controller for all of them included MODX?
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by Stevie18 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:58 pm

Not sure I understand the question. The MODX has two audio inputs so you can route two mono sources through it. But they would basically have all the same settings. So that reduces the usefulness a bit.

The other part is about MIDI. You can control the others from the FP30 provided you have a USB-to-MIDI converter. The MODX MIDI out can be used as a MIDI through port ss well. So yes, you can control the MODX and others from the FP30. Does that answer your question?
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by modalmojo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:36 pm

Hi Stevie18,

Thanks for the fast reply. (Y)

Sorry for my unclear question. :oops: What I mean is, if I plan to route Roland FP30 and another synth thru MODX, then there are 2 pairs of stereo outputs: 1 pair from Roland FP30 and 1 pair from another synth, right? Since MODX has only 1 pair of audio inputs, I need to have something else to accomplish this task?

For controlling everything (from hardware synth to vsti) by Roland FP30, provided I have the usb-midi converter, is the midi connection going to be:

Roland FP30 [midi out -> midi in] another synth [midi out -> midi in] MODX [midi out -> midi in] Computer

Thanks!
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by Stevie18 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:53 pm

modalmojo wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:36 pm
Hi Stevie18,

Thanks for the fast reply. (Y)

Sorry for my unclear question. :oops: What I mean is, if I plan to route Roland FP30 and another synth thru MODX, then there are 2 pairs of stereo outputs: 1 pair from Roland FP30 and 1 pair from another synth, right? Since MODX has only 1 pair of audio inputs, I need to have something else to accomplish this task?

Yes, correct. You would need some mixer or so for that.
modalmojo wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:36 pm
For controlling everything (from hardware synth to vsti) by Roland FP30, provided I have the usb-midi converter, is the midi connection going to be:

Roland FP30 [midi out -> midi in] another synth [midi out -> midi in] MODX [midi out -> midi in] Computer

Thanks!
That should work. Almost. On "another synth" it would in most cases be "MIDI through" and not "MIDI out". The MODX is special in that the "MIDI out" can be switched alternatively to "MIDI through" using the Utility menu.
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by modalmojo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:20 pm

Thanks for the help, Stevie18, I really appreciate it! ((i))
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Re: MIDI & Mixer Advice for MODX6

Unread post by FarHanSolo » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:14 pm

Kal1n_M wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:28 pm
Why don't you just route your FA-08 audio out thru MODX Audio input and bypass the mixer altogether? You can then control your FA-08 volume using the dedicated knob on MODX, use the MODX effects on it, the Motion Control, etc...
Actually that sounds like a more sensible option. Thanks
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