Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

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Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by jjd18 » Mon May 20, 2019 7:50 pm

Hi All -

I am new to the MODX, and trying to understand some basics. I'd like to adjust the pianos so that they do not have any reverb as the default setting. I've tried using the store feature without success. Now, every time I change from, say, an electric piano back to a piano, I hear the reverb again. Any suggestions?

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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by Eduardo Rojas » Fri May 24, 2019 4:41 pm

This is something that must be addressed for an OS update ((i))

As I posted on the dedicated thread, the performances have an amount of reverb that is simply insane. WIth acoustic instruments being the worst

Even on a youtube video, there's guy is turning the reverb way down each time, trying to sound more natural.

And the piano mixed with FM for nearly everything isn't any better. Instead, the super knob should be programmed by default to open or close the piano lid, NOT to be mixed with FM

It is disappointing to find that on the "acoustic pianos" category there're actually more CP pianos than anything
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by Stevie18 » Sat May 25, 2019 7:31 am

Hi Josh,

it is certainly possible and easy to do get rid of the reverb on the piano as the default setting. Adjust to your liking, store the performance, then you can use it later again. I realize that you write that you did that already. So something must have gone wrong. If I were to make a bet, then I would say you actually did not recall the newly stored performance but the original one. That's why you are hearing the original settings.

It is important to note that you cannot change the factory presets! You can only edit a performance and then store it to a copy. This is in the principle of how the MODX / Montage work and very unlikely to ever change. But considering that you have 640 user programmable performances (or if you add the library slots it is actually 9 x 640 performances) it is not a big restriction in any sense.

To make sure that you actually use the new performance (if my guess was right) I suggest you store the new one under a different name. You should always do that. Then search for it in the category search with the new name.

If you recall the performance from the Live Set screen you need to make sure that you update the corresponding Live Set slot as well. Again, you cannot do that for the factory Live Set but there are (again) plenty Live Sets which you can edit. After storing (or recalling) the edited performance you can assign it to a Live Set slot with the Shift + Live Set buttons and then touch a slot on the touch screen. Please try that...

Hi Eduardo,

from the thinking of Yamaha they will not touch any existing performances in any way. And I personally thinking that they are right there: There would be a public outcry if they did and suddenly everyone using those performances in some Live Set would get a different sound. They may (and have!) add new performances with different settings, but they won't change them. But as written above, you have plenty of user performance slots, so you can edit each and every performance to your liking and store it. After all it is a synthesizer which gives you all the possibility the factory preset programmers have...
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by EXer » Sat May 25, 2019 9:09 am

Had Yamaha added an "EFFECTS BYPASS" button, there would not be any problem...
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by Stevie18 » Sat May 25, 2019 8:03 pm

I have nothing against an effect bypass button. But I am not sure which problem it would solve. Personally, I would not need it, because I adjust all the performances exactly as I need them and then store them. That's much better than having to remember to press the button each time I want a sound dry. And then I have to remember to switch the effects on when I need them again. And of course it would bypass all effects, not sure that's what you want in all cases. Some sounds may still need some effect. Seriously, it is a matter of a couple of minutes to adjust the pianos to your liking and store them. And as written before, there are ample free performance slots so that you do not have to worry.

BTW: If you want a reverb bybass hardware control, the next best thing is to just turn the reverb knob on the front panel to the very left. Voila, no reverb. It is not a button press but a quick turn of a knob. And you have more than just simple on/off but you can fine-tune the amount just with one little turn of a knob. Note that you can program the performance so that the row in which the reverb knob is located is pre-selected when you recall the performance. So you recall the performance and then you have nothing more to do than to turn the knob.
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by Eduardo Rojas » Sun May 26, 2019 4:57 pm

Stevie18 wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 8:03 pm


BTW: If you want a reverb bybass hardware control, the next best thing is to just turn the reverb knob on the front panel to the very left. Voila, no reverb. It is not a button press but a quick turn of a knob. And you have more than just simple on/off but you can fine-tune the amount just with one little turn of a knob. Note that you can program the performance so that the row in which the reverb knob is located is pre-selected when you recall the performance. So you recall the performance and then you have nothing more to do than to turn the knob.
Hi :D

Does this work while changing sounds?. For example, I'm playing a piano with too much reverb, and then switch to another one thas has too much factory reverb. The reverb will be gone?, or I have to turn the reverb knob down again?


THAT'S what I'd love to do on the MODX. Turn down the reverb knob once and then all the presets will have the reverb reduced
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by Stevie18 » Mon May 27, 2019 4:33 am

No, those settings don’t stick when switching performances . They are made for adjusting your performances on the fly. For your case adapting the performances and storing them sounds like the best approach.
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by Eduardo Rojas » Mon May 27, 2019 3:18 pm

Bummer :(

Who would ever want to reduce the reverb preset by preset?

This need to be fixed for the 2.0 OS
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by Saul » Mon May 27, 2019 3:27 pm

Eduardo Rojas wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 3:18 pm
Bummer :(

Who would ever want to reduce the reverb preset by preset?

This need to be fixed for the 2.0 OS
If you were going to use 1000 sounds for every song I would agree but it doesn't take long to set up your most used sounds with the effects settings you want and store them for instant recall.

This is part of the reason people buy a synth like the Montage and MODX. You have the flexibility to sculpt sounds to your own taste rather than go with what someone else designed for you.

If MODX or Montage does not have the features you want then perhaps look to other makes like KORG, Roland, Dexibel or Nord?

It's all about choices and you choose the instrument that best suits what you want to achieve :)
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by Stevie18 » Mon May 27, 2019 5:34 pm

Couldn’t have said it better, Saul!
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by jjd18 » Tue May 28, 2019 6:53 pm

Stevie18 - Thanks for your support. I was able to save the patch with a new name and say goodbye to the reverb. I may start a new thread on effects. I find the user manual a little hard to follow.
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Re: Turning Off Reverb on Pianos

Unread post by Stevie18 » Wed May 29, 2019 7:27 pm

Great to hear. People here are usually very helpful, so keep asking!
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