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A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:45 pm
by Saul
Casio Privia.jpg
Casio PX-S1000
Some of you may have already seen this teaser video. In fact it is the first "teaser" video Casio have ever done. I think they did a good job with it :)



I was lucky enough to be the first and so far only person in the UK to see and try this new keyboard, even the retailers have not seen it yet! And although I can't yet say much about it what I CAN say is it completely blew me away both in terms of quality of sound and the quality of the keybed. I also could not believe the recommended retail price! 8O

More to follow :)

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:41 pm
by purcell
I found a "longer" 0.44 minute demoversion piano.
One of them discusses "a strange piano sound".
Testing it live...at the musicstore should help.

I found this: NAMM-News: Neue Tasteninstrumente von CASIO

CT-X series
All four keyboard models of the CT-X line - CT-X5000, CT-X3000, CT-X800 and CT-X700 - feature the new AiX * Sound Source, which CASIO has developed from its expertise in the digital sound generation of its digital pianos could benefit. The new sound generation reproduces the characteristic sound of acoustic instruments and is eight times more powerful than its predecessor models in comparable price ranges. A special focus has been placed on the natural sound behavior of acoustic instruments such as pianos, strings, horns and drums. The new audio system of the CT-X5000 and CT-X3000 also impresses with a powerful and rich sound.

Other features of the new CT-X700 and CT-X800 include: 600 Tones, 195 Rhythms, Synchro Stop Rhythm Controller, Tap Tempo and Registration Freeze Button. Additionally equipped with a USB to device connection and a pitch bend wheel is the CT-X800.

The CT-X5000 and the CT-X3000 have 800 tones, 235 rhythms, and many features to create your own song ideas and arrangements, such as: a tone editor, pattern sequencer, and a four-pad phrase recorder. The CT-X700 (RRP 249, - €) will be available from mid-February and the CT-X800 (RRP 299, - €) from mid-March 2018. The market entry in Europe for the two top models CT-X3000 and CT-X5000 as well as the price positioning are not fixed at the moment.

Prices from 249 € and 299 €!? Let's see what that is!

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:07 pm
by Saul
Yeah the CT-X range was announced at last years Winter NAMM in Jan 2018 so that is what you have picked up on there. We already have a CT-X700 thread running and we did a giveaway which one of our forum members won :)

The piano I looked at sounds amazing! I wish I could give all the details but I am bound by a NDA. It will be announced at Winter NAMM in a couple of weeks anyway and there is something else coming on Monday.

I think these instruments firmly seal Casio's pro credentials, certainly in the Stage Piano market anyway.

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:14 pm
by purcell
Incredible! How can something like this happen to me?

So I'll told you - old stuff from the NAMM 2018!

How did this happen?

The new Casio piano demo (0.44 min) was definitely NAMM 2019! The articles underneath then from the NAMM 2018. Not noticed! I'm sorry.

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:25 pm
by Saul
purcell wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:14 pm
Incredible! How can something like this happen to me?

So I'll told you - old stuff from the NAMM 2018!

How did this happen?

The new Casio piano demo (0.44 min) was definitely NAMM 2019! The articles underneath then from the NAMM 2018. Not noticed! I'm sorry.
I think you have been concentrating on your MOXF and time just flew by :)

There are some new things relating to the CT-X range but not hardware and from what I can tell Casio are now concentrating more on the pro piano side of things.

They have such a great team in place now, both at Casio UK and back in Japan. I can see great things happening for them through 2019 :)

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:29 pm
by Saul
By the way I think this was the slightly longer video you referred to earlier?


Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:53 pm
by purcell
Yes! This is the "longer" Casio piano demo "2019".

Hopefully 2019 ! :)

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:18 pm
by Saul
purcell wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:53 pm
Yes! This is the "longer" Casio piano demo "2019".

Hopefully 2019 ! :)
Ha ha...yes definitely 2019 ;)

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:11 pm
by Saul
Forgot to mention but the keybeds for these new instruments were created specifically for them including a brand new weighted mechanism and as well as the keys themselves. Casio are not rehashing any existing keybed here.

These keybeds went through three months continuous testing at the factory in Japan. Casio developed their own test gear including an automated key testing robot which strikes each key at different velocities millions of times.

At the end of testing they checked to see if any wear occurred and where it was so they could finely tune the production process for maximum quality and durability.

From my perspective as an end user and prospective customer I have to say this is one of the most beautiful feeling keybeds I have ever rested my fingers on...and trust me, I am NOT easy to please!

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:48 pm
by Swithin
I'm really curious to see what Casio are going to unveil. Considering the lack of knobs and sliders, this doesn't seem to be the PX-5S replacement everyone has been waiting for. But judging by your description, it's going to be a very exciting product nonetheless.

Although I've (reluctantly) put aside my music-related plans for now, I have to say this is a great time for keyboard enthusiasts: first Yamaha's MODX, with such a generous chunk of the Montage features, and now Casio's new Privia (or perhaps new line of Privias?). I wonder what else we're going to see this year!

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:47 am
by Saul
Swithin wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:48 pm
....and now Casio's new Privia (or perhaps new line of Privias?). I wonder what else we're going to see this year!
Yes indeed there is more than one ;) Look out for an announcement on Monday!

We will also be doing a giveaway and that is something you definitely don't want to miss (Y)

Yamaha have something in the bag too and we'll be reporting more on that soon so yes you are right, what a great time to be a keyboard player..or even a musician in general :)

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:00 pm
by anotherscott
The place where a lot of lower end Casios have fallen down for me has been lack of 5-pin DIN MIDI ports, and sometimes, if they have speakers, not having a line input. I'm not really in the market for a new 88 right now, but if they come out with something with those features that is under 25 lbs and has a really great feeling action, I could be tempted.

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:19 pm
by Saul
anotherscott wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:00 pm
The place where a lot of lower end Casios have fallen down for me has been lack of 5-pin DIN MIDI ports, and sometimes, if they have speakers, not having a line input. I'm not really in the market for a new 88 right now, but if they come out with something with those features that is under 25 lbs and has a really great feeling action, I could be tempted.
Actually a lot of keyboards no longer have DIN type MIDI ports, which is a shame because often it would be useful to use them to control other gear and not need a computer in the middle. Not important for me though as I would only ever connect via usb to a computer based DAW but I can see it is definitely an issue for some.

Weight wise I think you will be pleasantly surprised ;)

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:05 pm
by Derek
Saul wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:19 pm
anotherscott wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:00 pm
The place where a lot of lower end Casios have fallen down for me has been lack of 5-pin DIN MIDI ports, and sometimes, if they have speakers, not having a line input. I'm not really in the market for a new 88 right now, but if they come out with something with those features that is under 25 lbs and has a really great feeling action, I could be tempted.
Actually a lot of keyboards no longer have DIN type MIDI ports.....
A lot of pro musicians that I know still swear by conventional MIDI DIN ports, and refuse to use USB connections on stage as they think they are too unreliable.

I've actually switched to using USB where I can as on my GIG rack it means one connector per device not two, so it saved connector space on my gig rack. I think the main thing if you are using USB is that it probably has less strain relief than an old DIN connector (the connectors never feel as secure), so I have ensured that I have have some strain relief on the cable loom at both ends (all of my cables in my gig rig are loomed for ease of setup and tear down), so there is no undue strain on the connectors.

Also, I am not a regular gigger these days, so there is less wear and tear for that reason. And of course, I still carry MIDI leads and have some spare conventional MIDI ports in case I do have a problem with one keyboard, and can switch to MIDI if I need to by remapping the physical port in Cantabile that is driving the virtual ports.

Re: A NEW Era for Portable Pianos by CASIO

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:34 pm
by Saul
That's quite indicative of the way the market is going Derek. I think a lot of musicians are looking to scale back on the amount of gear they need to carry to gigs and rehearsals and usb does the trick for most things.

The last time I connected anything via traditional DIN type midi ports was the REVO1 and that was only so I could use it to control the MODX wirelessly :) The REVO1 is wireless but comes with a WIDI box which you connect to a synth or rack via traditional midi cables and it in turn receives the wireless midi signal from the REVO1.

For everything else though it is purely usb but then I never leave the house with a keyboard so no worries about the lead being pulled out mid gig and apart from the above I only use one keyboard at a time.