Saul wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:00 pm
I hear you Derek. Particularly on the band front. Back in the early 90's I was roadie, manager, tech and driver for my girlfriends band. There were four of them. I was the only one who worked a full time job and kept them all going! I paid the rent on our 3 bed semi..which they all used as a place to doss and party, I paid for the food they all voraciously consumed, I paid for the transport and even paid for most of the gear.
I must admit it did start to grate on me a little that I was doing all the work and they were spending their days sleeping, messing about, rehearsing and generally behaving like they were independently wealthy whilst living off me AND the state because they all claimed benefits of course. And oh the irony. Songs about how the state repressed everyone, then going on protest marches against the criminal justice bill and anything other cause they could jump on.
So yes there are plenty out there like that but, as I mentioned, what is the solution to the looming crisis that is fast approaching? If you have millions out of work because there are no jobs for them, what do we do? We can mention the downsides to universal benefit/income but what is the alternative?
I also come from a poor background by the way. My father died when I was 8 leaving my mother with a mortgage 4 young children and a pile of debts. She couldn't get any help at all and ended up working three jobs. She did a fantastic job of bringing us up but where did hard work get her? She saw her so called friends stay at home and live on benefits whilst she worked herself into the ground. She still worked up until two years before she passed away. Even then it was what happened in hospital that killed her not the illness and of course they conveniently lost all her records!
Sounds like our band experiences are similar.
The guitarist in my first band was "retired" due to disability after an industrial accident which did happen, but he could play guitar and I watched him vaulting fences when he could not be bothered to walk around them.
My mum was like yours. I think she held down three jobs whilst we were young, and that was a strong work ethos instilled in me. Our mums were doing the right thing compared to those that choose to live off the state.
As to your question on the alternative for the millions of unemployed?
UK unemployment is about 1.4M and about 4% of the workforce which is the lowest since 1971. Based on our band experiences we know there are people out there making a "lifestyle choice" not to work. Not sure what percentage that would be, but lets say 25%, which would mean that UK genuine unemployment would be less that 1M, so not sure where the "millions" of unemployed are? Unless you look elsewhere like Spain and Italy where there is endemic 50% youth unemployment, but we all know the cause of that....
I know it is contentious, but if immigration was more controlled, coupled with the moves to return social benefits back to being a safety net as opposed to lifestyle choice then it would probably fall further. There is of course the issue of do the jobs pay enough and what about the gig economy (which some people prefer). The best thing to do there is small Government, small client state, get out of the way and let companies thrive and innovate. In the financial crisis there was doom and gloom for the civil servants losing their jobs but more jobs were created in the private sector than were lost in the public sector (note I used to be a civil servant until we were privatised, so I have sat on both sides of the public/private fence).
Then quit the EU (and have the balls to tell Barnier and Junker where to go), slash corporation tax and tariffs, make the UK an attractive place to do business (what the EU is dead scared of, as well as losing our money), trade with the rest of the world, and generate the jobs.
The act of leaving the EU itself will give us the chance to save money on the EU protectionist tariffs that make some of our goods more expensive, which is disproportionately felt by people on low incomes.
That has to be a better way forward compared to paying people to sit on their bums in return for doing nothing, which is no incentive?