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Re: Some more gigs for parametric . . . .

Unread post by SysExJohn » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:49 pm

Thought you might appreciate that, Chris.

Yup, a tenor clef, and all hand written upon hand produced staves, no preprinted stationery in those days, all done with a five quill pen.
And the quill written notes and lyrics?
That is the hand of the grandpapa of western music, no less then Herrn Joh. Seb. Bach himself.
It's a "part" from Cantata #8.

Most of his surviving scores have now been scanned and reside at bach-digital.de.

What I discovered a while back was just how expensive paper was in those days.
An order of paper (probably a ream, maybe less) cost 2 florins and some groshen.
Bach's salary as Cappelmeister was 250 florins per annum at the end of his 2nd stay Weimar.
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Unread post by parametric » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:48 pm

Well, ~10% of his monthly Salary for a box of Paper seems quite dear - and it must have been an ongoing concern given his enormous output.

That sample apart from looking rather grubby (not surprising given its age) There seems (to me) to be to be a deal of alteration going on . . .

Well, I guess with THAT price of paper, you are not going to be screwing it up an a ball and toss it in the waste basket? :lol: :lol:

In places it LOOKS like there is a kind of "print-through" happening too? Maybe just adjacent sheets stored in contact?

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Unread post by SysExJohn » Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:53 am

Indeed, quite a sum.

However, Bach was not usually in the position of having to buy the paper himself, it was provided for him by his employer.
Nonetheless, it was not a commodity that could be lightly used, in the way that we do. Make a mistake, chuck it away and do it again.
No, no! Paper was a scarce commodity, and not in the possession of the everyday mortal, as it is today.

There are instances of one or more of his apprentice copyists making a mistake, which was angrily (it appears) crossed out by Bach, and the correct notation written by JSB. The sheets with massive crossings out are still retained as part of the score.
It usually occurs where transcribing instruments (e.g. oboe d'amore (minor third down) and oboe da caccia or taille (major fifth down)) were employed.
The parts creators had to create instrumental parts from Bach's original score, transcribing as they went, not a mere copyist.

I find it highly fascinating that we can now examine these scores in their original.

The scores have indeed taken on a different colour due to age, giving the typical yellowed hue of old paper.
The ink too, I dare say, has become more brown than it, perhaps, originally was.
The blotchiness is because they always used both sides of each sheet. Therefore there is always bleed through from the ink, using a quill to write.
Even where an instrumental part doesn't use the second side, clearly a low level apprentice (?) has drawn staves on both sides prior to its use.
Every page, apart from the paper used to bind the scores together, is entirely lined on both sides. Sometimes with a distinct curve to the staves.

The paper too is a little wider than we use, often being nine or more inches wide, and varying in length from fourteen to fifteen inches.
The edges seem always to be very ragged.

Here's an example, which appears straight edged on the left only because it is part of a bound copy held together on one edge with ribbon.

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In this case it is Bach scribbling out his hastily written part and rewriting it.
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Re: Some more gigs for parametric . . . .

Unread post by parametric » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:09 am

I've been asked to take part with the ECC for a New Album by Rick Wakeman.

Rick has requested Sessions for May 6/7/8 at Angel Studios, Islington (Same as we did for the King Arthur Album).

Content will be Classically oriented, Choir, Strings, Piano with various combinations of these . . .

Music is being committed to paper as we speak, but I believe it to be in keeping with Rick's very successful "Piano

Portraits" Project - that he's been touring . . .

Hopefully we'll get to see the Music in good time for the sessions . . . .

Latest info from the Man himself is here: http://www.rwcc.com/gorr.asp

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Re: Some more gigs for parametric . . . .

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:58 pm

Chris,

Good stuff; I hope it goes well ...

Ta,

Paul
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