Official List of amp types emulated

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Official List of amp types emulated

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I just want to let you know that it looks as if YAMAHA has now officially published a list of which amplifier types belong to the different model types!

I have seen such lists before, but not from YAMAHA itself. The interesting thing is that it corresponds to my idea of having EL84 tubes in CRUNCH, 6L6GC in DRIVE and EL34 in LEAD positions ;-)

https://usa.yamaha.com/support/faq/guit ... /6885.html

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Re: Official List of amp types emulated

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Thanks David

And here it is again just in case Yamaha take it down or move it!

DG Series Amp Models

1 ) Lead 1 - Marshall

2 ) Lead2 - Soldano

3 ) Drive 1 - Fender Bassman

4 ) Drive2 - Fender Twin

5 ) Crunch1 - Vox AC30

6 ) Crunch 2 - Matchless

7 ) Clean 1 - Fender Twin Nasal Silverface

8 ) Clean2 - Fender Twin Full Blackface


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Re: Official List of amp types emulated

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Cool. Interesting stuff, but (AFAICT) that's from the DG series of amps, and then, too, there was the DG Stomp pedal. It's dating back from a Yamaha doc from 2012 (as it states). Odd that it'd be leaked now. Hmm.

I used to own a Yamaha DG 80-112, cool amp overall with the motorized knobs and, IIRC, it offered these same generically-named amp sounds, but in the end, it just wasn't for me and so I returned it during the return window. Holdsworth was known for using that amp line, IIRC. Kinda wish I'd taken some more time to audition it. Oh, well. (I still own the DG's companion pedals, though, the UD Stomp and the great AG Stomp.)

Anyway, yeah, it's for the old DG line, but I'm left wondering if the info here is necessarily still applicable to more current amp designs. I mean, it could be but well, you know... :|


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Yes, the 8 models (Clean 1+2, Crunch 1+2, Drive 1+2 and Lead 1+2) have been used with DG1000, DG80, DG100 and DG130 in the first place. After that they have been continued with the DG-Stomp. As the Magicstomp includes effects of the DG-Stomp (as well as the UD-stomp and the AG-Stomp) it is shown up again within the "amp multi" section where heavy 1+2 and solid was added.

After that the philosophy of amp simulation changed a bit at yamaha and the sounds of the THR series are different even if they share the same name.

WIth the DG series only the amp was simulated by the DSP but the characteristic of the speaker was not simulated but real! To achieve that, the power amp has a very low negativ feedback which is driven by the current through the speaker and not the voltage at it (as it is common with HiFi amps)! That is like tube amps interact with the speaker and that's the main reason why the DG80 sounds different to a DG100 or a DG130. Its the different speaker which makes the sound!

So if you want to have the same sound with a Magicstomp as with one one of the DG amps you have to choose the right speaker simulation. I did that with good results when playing directly to the pa (via the magicstomp)...

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