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NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by Saul » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:11 pm

Just got some photos of the new Dexibell S3/S3 Pro & S7/S7 Pro which, given Yamaha's recent CP Stage Piano launch might be of interest.

This is the control panel of the Vivo S7 Pro which is identical to the S3 Pro.
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Dexibell Vivo S7 Pro Control Panel
This is the rear of the S7 Pro which again is identical to the S3 Pro
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Dexibell Vivo S7 Pro Rear
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Dexibell Vivo S7 Pro Top
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Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro top
So the only physical differences as far as I can tell are the number and type of keys.

More info from http://www.dexibell.com/
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Re: NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by Miks » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:20 pm

Nice (Y) - coming with additional balanced XLR outs. And YESSS!- they also DO have the good ol' MIDI DIN jacks! Praise the Lord!
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Re: NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by Saul » Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:32 pm

Yes indeed, very nice to see XLR's on there and of course our good old friend the 5pin midi ports including a midi thru which is often dropped from keyboards these days.
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Re: NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by Saul » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:44 pm

I'm definitely with the French on that one :) :angry-devil:
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Re: NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by anotherscott » Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:52 pm

Just from what I know so far, this is what I surmise...

Like the CP, I see it as a relatively simple to use 3-part board. Though its 3 parts appear to be defined by key location (upper, coupled, lower) rather than by sound type (piano, EP, sub; though the advanced mode lets you put any sound into any section). So whereas on the CP, it looks like you go to a sound (say, Piano) and select a key region for it (with the Split button), here you'd do the reverse... go to a key range (say, Upper) and select a sound for it. In that way, it reminds me of the difference between the Electro 5 (which worked more like the Dexibell) and the Electro 6 and Nord Stage (which work more like the CP). If I were working live with splits on a single board rig, I'd probably prefer the Dexibell approach to sound selection/key mapping. It's also nice that, with the Dexibell, you can get to any sound via 1 or 2 button presses, vs. having to possibly scroll through a list on the Yamaha. I also like that you can to any of your 81 user presets (in "memory" mode) within 2 button presses, whereas I think Yamaha requires you to manually page through your sets of 8. And while they are both 4-zone MIDI controllers, I like the 4 Zone on/off buttons on the Dexibell. I also like that you can load your own soundfonts, so you have more flexibility in getting around the problem of the board not having a sound you need, rather than having to connect to an iPad or whatever.

Effects selection for each part looks to be a menu-diving operation rather than the direct front panel selection of the CP, but once configured, assignment/control of the effects to each section looks to have nice front panel control. You do lose simplicity by virtue of the fact that the effects knobs are not function-dedicated and labelled (i.e. you have C1 and C2 knobs rather than Depth and Rate knobs or whatever other parameters you need), and there are fewer real-time controls overall (i.e. for octave switching of parts, common tone adjustments, envelopes, additional effects parameters), so again, it looks like more menu diving, not nearly as "immediate" a board as the Yamaha.

I like the retro vibe of the Yamaha, and its wealth of immediate controls. And in general so far, I've liked Yamaha sounds better than Dexibell sounds, and I suspect that the lightweight 73 Yamaha action will feel better than Dexibell's. And it would take me a little longer to learn how to get round on the Dexibell, as the Yamaha's operation is more obvious on its face. That said, the Dexibell approach might actually be more suited to the way I work. I'm not sure I really see these boards so much as direct competitors (the difference in hands-on immediacy from the sheer number of dedicated controls is pretty striking), but I see the appeal of both of them. Yamaha is more Nord-like... this to me is a little more reminiscent of a Kurzweil Artis.
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Re: NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by Derek » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:08 pm

Hi,

Perhaps I have been living under a stone, but who on earth are DEXIBELL? Never heard of them before? What is their USP? What would convince me to look at their products?

From the limited info I could find, they are related to Proel? In my books that is not a good start.... but I’ll confess my previous experience was limited. When I first needed foot pedals for my EX5, I was skint, so I economised on some cheap Proel pedals .... and pretty quickly ditched them for Yamaha FC7s. Yer gets what yer pays for....

PS: writing this a little late at night after a long year( yes I know it is only Jan!!!) and a few vinos. If a little too contentious, please delete....
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Re: NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by Saul » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:31 pm

Fair comment there Derek. Proel did not have the best of reputations but happy to say they are not involved with Dexibell at least not now. The team behind these Dexibell keyboards are all ex Roland developers and I think that shows in the quality of the product and the commitment to the ongoing development of the brand :)
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Re: NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by Saul » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:33 pm

Some more specs:

Both models share the following :
  • Unlimited Polyphony
  • 4 part multi timbral
  • 8 simultaneous DSP FX
  • 24 bit / 48khz
  • Bluetooth streaming & wav/mp3 playback via memory stick
  • USB over audio interface
  • 1.5gb rewritable & fully customisable sound memory
  • Deep physical modelling of acoustic and electric pianos
  • Free access to extra sounds at www.dexibell.com including the incredible PLATINUM sound sets (Faziolli, Steinway, Bechstein & Yamaha)
  • Hand finished, luthier made wooden end panels
  • 4 pedal inputs
  • Pitch bend & mod wheels, rotary controls for FX, OLED screen for easy visibility even outside
  • Balanced & Unbalanced outputs
  • Twin headphone socket
  • Includes high quality CP1 continuous sustain pedal

S3 Pro has 73 keys, weighs only 11.8kg, only 107.7cm wide and has a hammer action, triple contact key bed
S7 Pro has 88 keys, weights just 17.8kg and has a graded hammer action, triple contact keybed with ivory feel keytops.

Available from Late February
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Re: NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by Saul » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:39 pm

@anotherscott Very nice and balanced appraisal there.

I think there will always be pros and cons with most keyboards and it is simply a matter of finding one that ticks enough of the right boxes for you..and of course that you like the sound of.

For some reason I just really like the SF2 compatibility. Yeah I know it's an old format now but it still has legs and there are just so many free SF2 files out there! Just gives an extra edge to your sonic arsenal.

I also like the ability to completely wipe the sounds that come loaded on the keyboard and replace them with your own. It is an incredibly easy process to cherry pick sounds and delete/load them individually so you really can customise the soundset to your own liking...also without losing any of the standard presets.

I'm not a pro piano player of course so my requirements might be very different from someone who gigs for a living.
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Re: NAMM 2019 - Dexibell Vivo S3 Pro & Vivo S7 Pro Images

Unread post by Eduardo Rojas » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:08 pm

Any news/ reviews with these?

:D

Have not tried the TP 40 GH action. I tried the TP 100 with another keyboard and I didn't like it. Heavy and sluggish.

Is it more similar to RHIII action? (which I do like very much, allowing me to play more from everything)

Also, I'd love to know about the overall feel, operation, if there are any issues/bugs, etc
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