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Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by tux » Thu May 04, 2017 12:15 am

Available as a DIY kit or pre-assembled: 8O
http://www.deckardsdream.com/
The DIY kit sounds like a perfect project for somebody who's retired with plenty of time and good soldering skills (I wish that was me, both the retired part and the soldering skills).
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by Derek » Thu May 04, 2017 1:22 pm

That's not a bad price in kit form, and I might consider it at that price despite not being retired. ;) Having said that, as I get into UH-E DIVA and their other VSTis, I wonder if I will ever buy another hardware synth again!

It depends if you want real knobs or not (as opposed to a soft synth and an assignable control surface)
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by Miks » Thu May 04, 2017 1:43 pm

Prices:

DECKARD’S DREAM – KIT (PREORDER)

$349.00

This is the preorder for Deckard’s Dream synthesizer PCB kits.

Total price is $999 with a free worldwide shipping, the remaining balance of $650 to be paid when the product is ready for shipping.



DECKARDS’S DREAM – BUILT (PREORDER)

$1,199.00

This is the preorder for a fully built Deckard’s Dream synthesizer.

The total price is $3749 with a free worldwide shipping, the remaining balance of $2550 is to be paid when the product is ready for shipping.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by Derek » Thu May 04, 2017 5:13 pm

Ah, missed that. :oops:

I guess the price is still not bad compared to the cost of a real CS80 these days, assuming it sounds anything like it.

But at that price, I think I will stick to UH-E DIVA and the Director's Cut sound set, Arturia CS80V and the excellent Vangelis sounds I have found for the AN1x and Kronos.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by tux » Thu May 04, 2017 6:56 pm

I think the kit price is quite reasonable for what you are getting (an 8 voice poly analog synth inspired by the CS80 with tons of hands-on control), of course the kit will mean that you need to invest many dozens of hours into building it yourself but that's why I said it's perfect for somebody retired. ;)
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by Derek » Thu May 04, 2017 10:00 pm

I said the kit price is not bad, but I already have to much in my arsenal that is giving my CS80 type sounds to justify. If I really wanted it, I'd be quite happy building it without waiting to retire first ;)
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by jima » Sat May 06, 2017 12:33 pm

Is there a prototype, or is this all smoke and mirrors at the moment? Looks intriguing, but why are there no sounds or demos from the prototype on the web site? I'm getting very cynical in my maturing years :)
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by Miks » Sat May 06, 2017 1:14 pm

Right below the picture of the 19" unit you see the web address:
Play Sound.jpg
The red circle shows the arrow where to start (what I suppose to be) the sound demo...
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by jima » Sat May 06, 2017 1:24 pm

Ah, didn't look like a scrollable page at all with the background the same colour as my scroll bar. Good spot, sir! Not blown away with the demos as yet, will try again later.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by Derek » Sun May 07, 2017 9:14 am

And if you go further down there are sound cloud demos. I must say that I am with Jim and I was very underwhelmed. Why?

UH-E Diva at a cost of $179 (£137), and Richard Divine's Director's Cut soundset for DIVA at €29 (£25).

If I can spend around £162 to get sounds as good as the demo below, why the heck would I spend £2,900 (or £770 in kit form) on something that sounds so limp?



OK, the Sounds Divine demo is not dry and heavily effected, but you would not produce a dry track, and this is what I would want a polished track to sound like. And the demo sure sells the sound set. The minute I heard it I was clicking the "add to cart" button.

I have played with the individual sounds and they nail the character of the Vangelis sound which is why I personally want a CS80 facsimile. It might not be 100% accurate (I don't have a CS80 to compare against), but it is close enough to my ears!

So I think DeckardsDream have a way to go. If the box only sounds as good as those demos, then they are selling a false vision, if the box sounds awesome, then they need to up their advertising game and put some polished demos up that are going to make people get the G.A.S for one of these.

You would have thought that if they are associating their box with Bladerunner/Vangelis, they would at least put up something that shows you how they have nailed that "organic" CS80 sound that Vangelis is expert at.
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Re: Yamaha CS80 clone "Deckard’s Dream"

Unread post by Derek » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:19 pm

Hi,

If you have a free VSTi that sounds like the one on the link below, do you think this hardware project is on a hiding to nothing (unless you absolutely must have real knobs)? :)

Take a listen to the soundcloud demo on the page

http://www.vstplanet.com/News/2017/krak ... -synth.htm

If I had known about this previously, I still would have purchased DIVA as it is an amazing VST, but I might have passed on the sound set by Sounds Divine and tried out this VST and its sound set, which again, seems to have that organic Vangelis sound.
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