HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

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HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by Mimasu » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:26 pm

Ever since I saw Lukas Nelson and Promise of the Real live last summer I've been thinking about needing to have Les Paul Junior. I love the sound of Lukas Nelson. Looks like the Les Paul Junior is the most elementary rock machine on earth.

The vintage ones are very expensive and I would only pay that kind of money for a vintage Yamaha :D .

Many for sale are the 2015 ones. Weird Les Paul 100 logo on the headstock, robot tuners, adjustable brass nut, No thanks :hand:

Found a decent one yesterday. 2011 in satin white. Had some replacement upgrades (locking tuners and adjustable bridge) but I've changed them already to the original hardware.

I've owned 75+ guitars over the years. Never had a Gibson. But I start to like this one.

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BTW: Dont know if 2011 was a good or bad Gibson year, buy the build quality is decent. Doesn't come near to Yamaha though.
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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by Saul » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:14 pm

Looks like a really nice guitar from the photo. Nothing wrong with Gibson really. I know I moan a lot about prices and quality control but in reality "most" of them are good...still not convinced about the prices though ;)
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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by TheSupposedStringMeister » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:03 am

Nice deviation from Yamaha. I too sinned last month and bought a Gibson 2014 Traditional....

I played one of those a few years back and that P90 is a beast. Roll the volume off and you have tamed it...
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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by balston11 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:30 am

Nice I too have nothing against Gibsons except the ridiculous prices. I have this from 1956
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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by Asmikace » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:25 pm

Mimasu wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:26 pm

BTW: Dont know if 2011 was a good or bad Gibson year, buy the build quality is decent. Doesn't come near to Yamaha though.
I have a 2011 Gibson Les Paul Traditional that is amazing. The pickups on it are my favorite sounding PAF I played
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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by Buzzard » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:44 pm

HNGD , it's a guitar and it looks great, congrats. :dance: ((i))
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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by Mimasu » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:46 pm

Ok, good to know that most Yamaha lovers also have great Gibsons.

As I said ít's my first Gibson ever. I'm a Fender guy (and a Yamaha guy off course 8)).

Prices of Gibsons are ridiculous indeed but that's only the MSRP's I think. Most Gibsons overhere are beeing sold for far less, perhaps only 50 to 70 % of the MSRP.

The Les Paul Junior convinced me Gibson makes great sounding guitars too.

But somehow I think they keep doing silly things (Hope that's over under the new CEO). The 2015 line were very weird guitars. I hate the robot tuning, and don't know why they should change an almost superb design. I think it are the limitations that make a Les paul Junior stand out.

I played the 2018 Junior too. And boy they did it again. They changed the headstock logo. And nothing was wrong with the old one we've known for decades. I just don't like it:
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But I like my new Les Paul Junior ((i))

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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by Asmikace » Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:03 am

Mimasu wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:46 pm
Ok, good to know that most Yamaha lovers also have great Gibsons.


Prices of Gibsons are ridiculous indeed but that's only the MSRP's I think. Most Gibsons overhere are beeing sold for far less, perhaps only 50 to 70 % of the MSRP.

Gibson can be overpriced in some models in general. For a guitar that was supposed to be a economical model, I can't find a Les Paul Special with P-90s in TV yellow for under a grand. For what people ask for them, I can get 2-4 high quality Yamahas for that price.
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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by Mimasu » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:39 pm

I payed 550 euro (630 usd) for my 2nd hand LP jr that included a Gibson gigbag. The Gibson Les Paul Junior Tribute DC 2019 model overhere is 745 euro (850 usd) new. Sounds like decent prices to me ((i)) .

The high end Gibsons overhere are priced ridiculous indeed. Even at half of the MSRP. I wonder who they are thinking to fool.

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Unread post by Mimasu » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:33 pm

Playing a Gibson Les paul Junior and liking the sound, only one thing comes to mind: I need to have a Yamaha like that 8)

And there is: the SG-RR Standard or Junior (what's in a name).

So I checked ebay...... guess what....... they have gone completely mad 8O :

https://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-SG-RR-T ... rk:31:pf:0

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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by balston11 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:30 pm

They can ask what price they want but I am sure they won't get that much. Having said that haven't seen one for sale in the UK in recent times.
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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by Mimasu » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:48 pm

Haven't seen one for sale on the EU mainland the last years either. The ones for sale are mainly black. If we believe the old Japan Guitarchive the Standard came in black, vintage cherry, and lime de mahogany. The Junior in black and white. So the guitar on ebay must be a Standard in "lime de mahogany". But OK, it looks like TV yellow.

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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by balston11 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:31 am

I have a page on these including of course the Custom as well
see http://www.alston-family.co.uk/SGRR/SGRR.php#top
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Re: HNGD.... but not a Yamaha... sorry

Unread post by Mimasu » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:04 pm

Thanks Bill.

Looking at the specs the SG-RR Standard with mahogany set neck in a mahogany body and P90 type PU's looks the most like a LP Junior. And the SG-RR Junior doesn't. I got it. Weird people at yamaha. :roll:

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Unread post by Mimasu » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:33 pm

The Les Paul Junior I bought about a month and that triggered this topic has left the building again. Sold her last week. Again some proof that the best way to test a guitar is buying one second hand for a price that you will be able to sell it for again if you want to get rid of it. Of the 100+ guitars I've owned I bought only two new. (weird thing but one of the two is still my main guitar :roll: )

After some weeks you'll find out if you really like the guitar or not. Played the Junior a lot the first days but but ended by not playing the Junior anymore and the love was over. Best thing: Even made some profit while selling again.

A lot of people aks me what guitar they should buy. I always advise a second hand one becourse of the thing above. Further I'm convinced that if a guitar is still OK after 5 to 10 years it wil normaly stay OK forever. That goes for cheap as wel as expensive guitars I think.

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