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Baritone guitars

Unread post by Buzzard » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:40 pm

The theme from the 007 movies ........ background sound in lots of old B movies and spaghetti westerns.

There's a guitar sound that stands out, a dark almost bassy sound, but not quite a bass.



The baritone guitar is (usually) tuned down to B E A D F# B , having a longer scale and thicker strings.

There's lots of cool baritones out there, even at quite reasonable prices, but I'll stick to the Yamaha models. :D

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Here's a borrowed Picture of a translucent purple Yamaha RGX-tt D6

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The RGXTTD6 boasts the same features as the RGXTT Ty Tabor Signature guitar, with the addition of Yamaha's new proprietary design known as Drop 6. This slightly longer scale length of 26 1/4" is perfect for players that demand ultra low tuning. Unlike a 7-string guitar, the Drop 6 feels like a normal guitar, but achieves the same modern rock, a wall of thunder sound!
・Sculpted Body
・Yamaha Drop 6 Neck Design - 26 1/4" Scale Length
・Seymour Duncan Pickups ・Wikenson VS100 Tremolo
・Sperzel Locking Tuners
・Translucent Purple, Green, Red Finish

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Yamaha AES-520 D6.

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The Yamaha AES-520D6 electric guitar features the same cutting-edge esthetics, explosive tone and components as the AES-820.
The addition of Yamaha's "Drop 6" 25 1/4" neck design is perfect for ultra low tunings used in modern rock styles.
・Modern Sculpted Design
・Solid Alder Body
・26 1/4" Scale Drop 6 Maple Neck
・Rosewood Fingerboard
・Sperzel Locking Tuners
・DiMarzio Pickups
・Neo-Retro Knobs

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AES-820-D6 , 2002-2005 , made in Taiwan.

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The Yamaha AES820D6 electric guitar features the same cutting-edge esthetics, explosive tone and components as the AES820.
The addition of Yamaha's "Drop 6" 25 1/4" neck design is perfect for ultra low tunings used in modern rock styles.
・Modern Sculpted Design
・Solid Alder Body
・26 1/4" Scale Drop 6 Maple Neck (bolt on)
・Rosewood Fingerboard
・Sperzel Locking Tuners
・DiMarzio Pickups
・Neo-Retro Knobs.

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The extermely rare and expensive Yamaha AES-AD6 :

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http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical- ... mode=model
http://www.amirderakh.com/collection-yamaha_aes-ad6.php
http://www.amirderakh.com/collection-ya ... kwhite.php
http://www.amirderakh.com/collection-yamaha-ad6pink.php
http://www.amirderakh.com/collection-yamaha-ad6grey.php

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The last and least expensive model is the cool Yamaha RGX-420S D6 superstrat with Floyd Rose tremolo:

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And that's the one that I recently picked up and took home:

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The RGX-420S D6 features a sleek looking rock style silouette with fat sounding dual humbuckers, double locking tremolo, Black hardware,and some rockin Satin and Metallic finishes. This model also houses a "blower switch" that allows you to bypass all pickups for full onbridge humbucking sounds. ・Solid Alder Body ・Dual Humbucking Pickups ・Dual Locking Tremolo ・Black Hardware ・Satin Black, Satin Gray, Metallic Green ・

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Yamaha recomends the following stringset for their baritone guitars: 064w 048w 036w 024w 016 011

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Unfortunately, this exact set of strings doesn't seem to be available today, but there's a close match that will do nicely:
D'Addario EXL 158 : 62w , 46w , 36w , 26w , 17 , 13

It's a hoot to play a baritone, if you get the chance, try one out. 8)
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Re: Baritone guitars

Unread post by zpink » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:04 pm

Half of my guitar collection (which in all honesty makes it one) is tuned A-D-G-C-E-A using 6 strings from Ernie Ball 7-string power slinky.
Guess that makes it a Baritone even if I never knew what it was called (or know if it's still a Baritone since that puts it a full step lower).
I of course then also have 4 wound strings instead of 3, but that doesn't bother me the slightest since I don't use it for any leads. :-)

Since it has a Floyd Rose, it was a pain in @r$e to set up and I haven't had that much time to play it since, but yeah, it gives me the 7-string sound without the cost and too wide for my chubby fingers fret-board! ((i))
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Re: Baritone guitars

Unread post by Buzzard » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:51 pm

Cheers zpink. :D

If you've tuned down to A , you're definitely in baritone range, and even lower than the standard B E A D F# B tuning.

Using a 7 string set, discarding the thinnest string, and putting the rest on an ordinary 6 string guitar can actually work well,
I just never got around to test it before getting the RGX-420S D6.
Having the longer scale and much fatter strings, it takes some getting used to, but at least it almost handles and feels like an ordinary 6 string.

The 7 string guitars are fantastic instruments, but I never took a liking to the wide neck. :(

As far as I know, Yamaha only made one 7 string electric so far, the AES-RS7 :

I totally agree with you on the Floyd Rose issue, it's a proper pain to set up, however, probably the best system along with trem Locks.

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Re: Baritone guitars

Unread post by zpink » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:50 pm

This guitar isn't a Yamaha but an Epiphone. I was planning to give my bass (Yamaha RBX 374) the same treatment, but then I went and bought a new keyboard instead.
A lot more work on a bass too since the strings won't really fit in. The bass will go on ebay whenever I get the time to list it now too.

Speaking of long and wide necks, I assume you've seen Uli Roth's guitar? ;-)
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Re: Baritone guitars

Unread post by Buzzard » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:19 pm

zpink wrote:Speaking of long and wide necks, I assume you've seen Uli Roth's guitar? ;-)

Sorry, I had to google him for a youtube flic, but he really plays FANTASTIC:



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Re: Baritone guitars

Unread post by zpink » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:19 pm

oh, I'm a bit baffled! ;-)
A guitar-man like you of a similar age as myself and who's posted Twisted Sister vids in here and not heard of Scorpions?!?!?!
Well, the old Scorps that is, pre-WindsOfBloodyChange!!!!

They did great stuff after Roth, Jabs is rather competent too, but those early (not the very first) albums were something special! ((i))

I can still remember when I first heard 'Hellcat' on the radio and for the next 15 years or so held them higher than any other band I'd heard.
Roth also did the vox on that track and this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG_ysfc50nU
This intro surely is guitar-w@nk at its best? ;-)
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Re: Baritone guitars

Unread post by Buzzard » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:42 pm

zpink wrote:oh, I'm a bit baffled! ;-)
A guitar-man like you of a similar age as myself and who's posted Twisted Sister vids in here and not heard of Scorpions?!?!?!
Well, the old Scorps that is, pre-WindsOfBloodyChange!!!!

They did great stuff after Roth, Jabs is rather competent too, but those early (not the very first) albums were something special! ((i))

I can still remember when I first heard 'Hellcat' on the radio and for the next 15 years or so held them higher than any other band I'd heard.
Roth also did the vox on that track and this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG_ysfc50nU
This intro surely is guitar-w@nk at its best? ;-)
Scorpoins, yep, I know them, but not all the names behind the bands .......... :oops:
After all, I've been employed in Chemical industries for more than 25 years ...... :wink:

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Unread post by zpink » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:25 pm

LOL, fair point!
Back in those days (and up 'til quite recently actually) I used to read just about everything in the cover notes, but I may have been a bit geeky in that regard. :oops:

Is this a taxable job perk? ;-)

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Yamaha RGX-TT D6 Baritone guitar

Unread post by Buzzard » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:49 pm

Finally ((i))

Next week, I'll receive a green Yamaha RGX-tt D6 ((i))

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Unread post by jeff-carolina » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:27 am

Peter,
Nice looking guitar and congrats!! That is my favorite color of the TT series and a drop 6, very nice. I'm looking forward to hearing how it plays.
I have never played a baritone or a 7 string but have come close to pulling the trigger several times. Here's a pic of one that looks interesting.

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Unread post by balston11 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:21 am

I have bid on a few baritones but never won one I guess I expect to pay too little. That green RGX looks fantastic Peter.
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Unread post by Buzzard » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:41 pm

jeff-carolina wrote:Peter,
Nice looking guitar and congrats!! That is my favorite color of the TT series and a drop 6, very nice. I'm looking forward to hearing how it plays.
I have never played a baritone or a 7 string but have come close to pulling the trigger several times. Here's a pic of one that looks interesting.
The AES-RS7 and AES-AD6 are the top of the line AES guitars. :D
Made for guitarist Amir Derakh, and he's got some fab custom versions of both.
I would love to get my hands on the AES-AD6 , but not so much the AES-RS7 seven string version.
I've tried a Musicman 7-string and an Ibanez 7-string belonging to friends, but my hands absolutely hate the wide necks. :?
...... but for those who like and master the wide 7-string necks, it's a fantastic instrument. :wink:

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Unread post by Buzzard » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:54 pm

balston11 wrote:I have bid on a few baritones but never won one I guess I expect to pay too little. That green RGX looks fantastic Peter.
I got it for slightly over 230 GB£ including shipping.
The guitar came from the leftover stock of a closed music store.
It's been played in the shop having only minor scratches, and one of the buttons missing.
All in all, a great deal, once I find a new knob. :wink:

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Re: Baritone guitars

Unread post by balston11 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:42 am

An RGX420 in distressed condition has just been listed here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-RGX420 ... Swq19XCUBl if it styas cheap enough I may bid and see if I can rescue it.
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Unread post by Daviedawg » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:09 pm

Nice one Peter. I bid on a mint identical one about a year ago. I think it went for a lot more than that.

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