Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

This section is dedicated to players of electric guitar. From beginner to expert and all in between. Everyone is welcome here.

Moderators: Derek, Buzzard, parametric, Saul

User avatar Uruguay
pablopiriz
Posts: 4
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:38 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by pablopiriz » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:53 pm

Asmikace,
got the tremolo arms made for both the Custom and the Deluxe through your recommendation, fitted on them now.
I still need to track the micro tuning crews for the bridge on the Deluxe.
Wrote to Martyn Booth himself and he actually replied, here is what he recommended;

"Thanks for your kind comments about the MSG/Image guitars.

Unfortunately Yamaha stopped supplying spares for them nearly 20 years ago
and I ran out of the spares over 10 years ago.

The good news is that there is a way to get the micro tuning screws working
but it needs a bit of modification by someone with some basic engineering
knowledge.

The original fine tuners had a very fine thread and because the metal of the
mounting bar is quite soft they were prone to stripping the thread. (This
will be the reason they have been removed). The best solution is to buy
Ibanez fine tuning screws and then get an engineer to drill out the mounting
bar and re-tap the threads for the bigger screw. I have done this on several
of these tremolos a few years back.

Hoping you have success with this modification"

Thanks again fro the links to the custom tremolo builder, greatly appreciated

Pablo
User avatar United States of America
Asmikace
Member
Member
Posts: 285
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:13 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by Asmikace » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:09 am

pablopiriz wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:53 pm
Asmikace,
got the tremolo arms made for both the Custom and the Deluxe through your recommendation, fitted on them now.
I still need to track the micro tuning crews for the bridge on the Deluxe.
Wrote to Martyn Booth himself and he actually replied, here is what he recommended;

"Thanks for your kind comments about the MSG/Image guitars.

Unfortunately Yamaha stopped supplying spares for them nearly 20 years ago
and I ran out of the spares over 10 years ago.

The good news is that there is a way to get the micro tuning screws working
but it needs a bit of modification by someone with some basic engineering
knowledge.

The original fine tuners had a very fine thread and because the metal of the
mounting bar is quite soft they were prone to stripping the thread. (This
will be the reason they have been removed). The best solution is to buy
Ibanez fine tuning screws and then get an engineer to drill out the mounting
bar and re-tap the threads for the bigger screw. I have done this on several
of these tremolos a few years back.

Hoping you have success with this modification"

Thanks again fro the links to the custom tremolo builder, greatly appreciated

Pablo
That is cool that Martyn Booth respond to you. I want to say that the some of the lower end SE guitars used the same tremolos so if find a cheap one for sale, you could buy it and harvest the tremolo parts but I am not entirely sure.

Finding Yamaha parts outside of the SG 1000/2000 are hard to impossible to find. I bought a SG 80T that missing the tremolo arm and collet and middle/bridge pickup. I knew the pickup would be impossible to find but the tremolo arms they used for the 60s/70s Yamahas SG and SA are difficult to find as well even though they been used in various models.
User avatar Portugal
dagiro1021
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by dagiro1021 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:40 pm

Hi Guys! I'm new to the forum, and this is my first post. I am a MSG/Image lover, and think they are the best "factory" guitars ever made, so much so that I have 5 of them; 3 standards, one deluxe, and one custom. I have Gibsons and Fenders that rarely get used, since I discovered these incredible guitars. Nice to hear from some like minded MSGers.
My Regards to all.
Rod.
User avatar United States of America
Asmikace
Member
Member
Posts: 285
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:13 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by Asmikace » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:16 am

dagiro1021 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:40 pm
Hi Guys! I'm new to the forum, and this is my first post. I am a MSG/Image lover, and think they are the best "factory" guitars ever made, so much so that I have 5 of them; 3 standards, one deluxe, and one custom. I have Gibsons and Fenders that rarely get used, since I discovered these incredible guitars. Nice to hear from some like minded MSGers.
My Regards to all.
Rod.
Got pictures of them?
User avatar Denmark
Buzzard
Specialist Moderator
Specialist Moderator
Posts: 2508
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:38 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by Buzzard » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:49 pm

dagiro1021 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:40 pm
Hi Guys! I'm new to the forum, and this is my first post. I am a MSG/Image lover, and think they are the best "factory" guitars ever made, so much so that I have 5 of them; 3 standards, one deluxe, and one custom. I have Gibsons and Fenders that rarely get used, since I discovered these incredible guitars. Nice to hear from some like minded MSGers.
My Regards to all.
Rod.
Hi Rod, welcome to the forum and the string section. :D

You've got (at least) 5 superb guitars, you're welcome to show them if you have pictures.

Best Regards
Peter
Yamaholic, Guitars, Amps and Bikes. :idea: My Guitars: http://www.yamahamusicians.com/forum/vi ... =24&t=7004 :idea:
User avatar Portugal
dagiro1021
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by dagiro1021 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:48 pm

Thanks for the prompt replies Guys! Not sure yet how to upload the fotos, any assistance would be gratefully recieved.
My Regards to all. Rod.
User avatar United States of America
Asmikace
Member
Member
Posts: 285
Joined: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:13 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by Asmikace » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:43 am

dagiro1021 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:48 pm
Thanks for the prompt replies Guys! Not sure yet how to upload the fotos, any assistance would be gratefully recieved.
My Regards to all. Rod.
When you post, there is a tab down below to attach files.
User avatar Portugal
dagiro1021
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by dagiro1021 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:25 pm

So Guys, here they are;
Attachments
002.JPG
009.JPG
015.JPG
021.JPG
028.JPG
User avatar United States of America
jeff-carolina
Member
Member
Posts: 323
Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:44 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by jeff-carolina » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:19 pm

Very Nice Collection!!!
User avatar Netherlands
Mimasu
Member
Member
Posts: 232
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:01 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by Mimasu » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:03 pm

Great looking guitars :D .

As you have 5 you must be an expert.

I own a Standard and compaired to other Yamaha humbucker type guitars I have the feeling the PU's lack some low end. The Standard tends to sound a little thin. That's no problem when you're looking for that but I use my HB'n guitars only if it has to be FAT 8). And i must admit, I play HB's very seldom. My Standard just hangs at the wll being very pretty, and I mean VERY pretty.

Any opinion on that thin sound?

But not any doubt about the qualiy of these guitars. Superb craftmanship.

Leon
User avatar Portugal
dagiro1021
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by dagiro1021 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:35 pm

Hi Leon,
The bodies on these guitars have a superb natural resonance and great pickups. Mine sound FAT, to say the least, through both Mesa Boogie and Marshall, so I can only suggest that maybe there is a problem with the coil tap facility on the tone control/coil tap of your guitar! If so, a little spray of electrical contact cleaner into the pot/switch, would probably cure the problem.
Please let me know mate.
Regards, Rod.
User avatar Netherlands
Mimasu
Member
Member
Posts: 232
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:01 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by Mimasu » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:38 pm

Hi Rod,

I'll check and let you know.

Leon
User avatar United States of America
NYGeorge
Member
Member
Posts: 342
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:26 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by NYGeorge » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:11 am

Yum Yum. Like candy for the eyes. Do you have other Yams.
Oh and welcome to Yamaha GAS central.
User avatar Portugal
dagiro1021
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by dagiro1021 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:55 pm

I have an SG500, and an Studio Lord SL500s , & FG's, 6 & 12 string. Just sold my FZ1000 as I haven't played it in ages. Thanks for the welcome.
User avatar Netherlands
Mimasu
Member
Member
Posts: 232
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:01 pm
Contact:

Re: Yamaha MSG / Image guitars

Unread post by Mimasu » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:03 pm

[/quote]
dagiro1021 wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:35 pm
The bodies on these guitars have a superb natural resonance and great pickups. Mine sound FAT, to say the least, through both Mesa Boogie and Marshall, so I can only suggest that maybe there is a problem with the coil tap facility on the tone control/coil tap of your guitar! If so, a little spray of electrical contact cleaner into the pot/switch, would probably cure the problem.
Please let me know mate.
Regards, Rod.
Mimasu wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:38 pm
Hi Rod,

I'll check and let you know.

Leon
Took some time but here we are:

Coil tap was fine. AB'd my 1989 MSG standard and my best souding other HB'n Yamaha's, a 1977-78 SG700 and a 1984 LP500. Played through my Tone King Metropolitan, and for the real fatness, through a Menatone Blue Collar.

First you're right: Played acoustically the MSG is the most resonant of them. Bright, great overtones.

Second, I tend to think I'm right too :wink: . Plugged in my amp the SG700 is the fattest, the LP500 comes second, and the MSG third.

But who cares: it's all a matter of taste and...... the MSG is the most versatile of them. If you're looking for FAT, get yourself an early SG700.

Leon

BTW: I think an old SG700 can beat many other SG's. Mine sounds better than my SG3000. The LP500 is also great. Don't know if all LP500's are. I have 5 LP and SL type guitars. They differ in sound and feel very much. The LP500 is by far the best sounding.
Post Reply

Return to “Electric Guitar, Amps & Effects”