Is there no key (note) latch/hold mode?

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Is there no key (note) latch/hold mode?

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Ok this just be me, but I can't seem to find a key (note) latch or hold button on the keyboard, nor in the panel menus, or manual.

I know that I can set Arpeggio Hold in settings, but what about just one or more keys without the arpeggiator turned on?

Is that really true that Yamaha forgot about this?


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Re: Is there no key (note) latch/hold mode?

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Ok for now I just connected a sustain pedal and putting a heavy object on it, as I need a continuous tone using only the EX5 as a MIDI keyboard to an external synth module connected to an oscilloscope, so I can continuously see what tweaking oscillator settings actually do.


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Re: Is there no key (note) latch/hold mode?

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Does your sustain pedal have a switch for (reversing the) polarity? If yes, you only have to flip the switch into the other position and the synth holds the note(s) or chord(s) you play without the need of some weight on the pedal... :wink:

And the synth stops playing note(s)/chord(s) endlessly as soon as you step on the pedal...

If not, here some examples of suitable pedals:

https://www.thomann.de/de/lead_foot_lfd_1_mkii.htm
https://www.thomann.de/de/lead_foot_lfd2.htm
https://www.thomann.de/de/boss_fs5u.htm

The LeadFoot LFD2 is the one I have - it serves me well since several years.

BTW, I'm not affiliated with Thomann in any way. Just a satisfied customer.


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Re: Is there no key (note) latch/hold mode?

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I agree with Miks. :)

I am not aware of a front panel latch option, but you should be able to do it via foot pedal or equivalent MIDI CC


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Re: Is there no key (note) latch/hold mode?

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The EX has a sequencer. Use it.

Record a PATTERN which contains just one event: SUSTAIN ON (*)
Play it when you want to sustain the notes.

(*)
REC START
press sustain pedal
STOP
release pedal

Done.


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Re: Is there no key (note) latch/hold mode?

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Hold mode... I had that on some keyboards in the past.
Helpful with chords/Arpeggios...and a solo on it. ... in the past.

I just tried this: SUSTAIN and RELEASE KNOB --- FULL right = maximum
Sorry ... but the sound/chord or added chords FADES away after some time - as expected. I thought it would stay a little - or much longer.
But It stays for "some time".

Anyway it is no REAL "HOLD".
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Info
On older synthesizers, such as the Korg MS-20, a common variation on the ADSR was ADSHR (attack, decay, sustain, hold, release). By adding a "hold" parameter, the system allowed notes to be held at the sustain level for a length of time before decaying. The General Instruments AY-3-8912 sound chip included the hold time only; the sustain level was not programmable. Another common variation in the same vein is the AHDSR (attack, hold, decay, sustain, release) envelope, in which the "hold" parameter controls how long the envelope stays at full volume before entering the decay phase.
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Stick to the advice of Miks. :!:

INFO
Latch, hold, continuus pad, however you want to call it - how to do it?

https://www.yamahasynth.com/forum/latch ... -it/latest

Even the MONTAGE has no HOLD function!

Normally there is no HOLD function on the synthesizers/workstations. But with PSRs and TYROS etc.
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Unbelieveable trick! HOLD - FUNCTION on synths etc. ... stay on the keys... with something! ((i)) (Y) :mrgreen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxenzI5SJh0


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