Yamaha EX5 VST by Gospel Musicians

The EX5 features a unique Extended Synthesis system which incorporates a number of advanced tone generator technologies. AWM2, AN, FDSP and VL. The EX5 is one of the best keyboard Yamaha ever produced.

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Yamaha EX5 VST by Gospel Musicians

Unread post by Jupiter4 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:11 pm

I was prompted by Derek to write about this as he seems to be on a quest to replace Yamaha hardware with VSTs. I have not bought this VST but have seen the video. It’s called the Blue Beast and was designed by Jamal at Gospel Musicians who is a long time EX5 user and has many YouTube videos about the EX5. He also has an electric piano IOS app that has an EX5 EP. Hope that this is helpful.
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Re: Yamaha EX5 VST by Gospel Musicians

Unread post by Derek » Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:21 pm

I was aware of this, one, but pretty much discounted it.

The problem is there is, to my knowledge, no "try before you buy" demo, and it is not compatible with Yamaha EX5 files, so next to useless unless you want to program everything from scratch, and the video and the sounds he plays (sparsely in amongst all the repetitive talking) does not convince me to take the chance on buying it.

If I were them I would provide A/B comparisons of complex FDSP, AN and VL sounds to backup their claims.
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Unread post by javelin276 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:46 pm

I listened to the demo video. He admits the VL is all sample based (the one short sax riff he played sounded like a sample, not like VL). He implies that the AN is 2-oscillator emulation (so it might be similar, hard to tell since he didn't play any presets). The AN section looks very simplified compared to the EX5, only one knob control. He talks a lot about the effects so those may be similar to the EX5, but he doesn't touch on FDSP really other than the water effect. He plays a number of the AWM2 piano and organ presets which are all sample based, but skips playing the VL, AN, and FDSP in the demo. I gather from looking at the website the UVI is a sample based synth with effects, so don't expect it to depart much from that. All in all, if you want an EX5 go buy one, don't expect this VST to replace it. If your interest is more superficial, you just want to play some of the presets, you might find it useful.

I prefer the real hardware to a VST myself.
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Re: Yamaha EX5 VST by Gospel Musicians

Unread post by Derek » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:15 pm

javelin276 wrote:
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.... if you want an EX5 go buy one, don't expect this VST to replace it. If your interest is more superficial, you just want to play some of the presets, you might find it useful.

I prefer the real hardware to a VST myself.
Which is why I didn't sell my EX5 synths until I found an EX5R for my studio. :D

I still have an interest an a "proper" EX5 emulation for reproducing certain sounds live if I could. But a sample based VST that only has the presets, and no ability to load S1V files won't offer anything over and above what I could sample myself....
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Re: Yamaha EX5 VST by Gospel Musicians

Unread post by Jupiter4 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:38 pm

Thanks for the comments and it’s a shame that it’s not what it seemed. Am not a computer guy so didn’t did into detail checking it out. Jamal is so passionate about the EX5 that it’s a real surprise that he seems to have done a poor job on this. As an ex-EX5R owner I was even thinking to buy a computer to run this (and Roland Cloud)

Derek out of interest why did you keep an EX5R if you have Kronos and Montage?

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Unread post by Derek » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:18 pm

I can't say if Jamal has done a good or poor job, as there is no easy way of checking it without blowing the money, but the video did not convince me to take the risk, and, as Javelin says, it is probably, mostly a sampling of the EX5 presets, which I could do myself if I wanted to. Indeed I may need to as I need to recreate the FDSP water sound live in some songs. For live use, sampling will be fine.

Why did I keep an EX5R? Because of some of iconic sounds I didn't want to lose. The EX5 is still the only synth in the world with FDSP on it. The AN engine can still kick the ass of the Kronos AL-1 engine for certain sounds especially sync leads, and of course you have VL. So that is enough reason to keep one, I think.
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Re: Yamaha EX5 VST by Gospel Musicians

Unread post by Angelo Taylor » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:30 am

I dont think so, that this VST - can exchange real EX5/7. This VST - is sample based only, it does not contain real physical engines inside plugin, as AN, FDSP, or VL. It is not copy real sound routing structure, as in real EX. It is - not for professionals, I think... I really dont know, I'm afraid to think, hwo will purchase and use this set of pics and samples...)) I have, I use every day, and I love my real EX7!
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Re: Yamaha EX5 VST by Gospel Musicians

Unread post by Derek » Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:15 pm

Hi

That is pretty much the conclusion above, and once you have had the EXperience then you need to keep the real deal in your rig. :)
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Re: Yamaha EX5 VST by Gospel Musicians

Unread post by Angelo Taylor » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:15 pm

Derek wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:15 pm
Hi

That is pretty much the conclusion above, and once you have had the EXperience then you need to keep the real deal in your rig. :)
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