Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by Miks » Mon Jul 16, 2018 3:14 pm

Here's a nice display that (electrically) will fit.
https://www.buydisplay.com/default/1602 ... -backlight
I have just checked the pin-out against the schematic - 1-14 is exactly the same pin-out as of the old display. Pin 15 & 16 is for the LED backlight (which the old one doesn't have). Take care for the mechanical dimensions - maybe this display is a little thicker (due to the backlight) 8O . But maybe the metal frame (carrying the display) could be worked on so the new display fits... that's what I would do if I were in this situation... 8)

Oh, and make sure to order a display for the correct supply voltage if you want to order one of these - you'll need a 5 volt type - NOT a 3.3 volt!
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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:08 pm

Saul wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:20 pm
Yet another very weird and completely nonsensical idea to leave out LOCAL OFF on the DX21. If someone can explain the rationale behind that decision I would love to hear it.
Saul,

I think it was because the DX21 was not designed to be a CONTROLLER type of keyboard. It would be more of a RECEIVER. Whereas the DX7 is touch-sensitive and able to transmit more parameters.

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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by Saul » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:42 pm

Even the simplest of keyboards has Local ON/OFF. Every keyboard I have owned or used had this function and I am going way back over 30 years or so. The Early PSR's that came out at the same time as the DX21 had Local ON/OFF so really there is no sensible reason why something like the DX21 or DX27 should not have it especially since they have MIDI In/Out/Thru ports.
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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by parametric » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:08 am

Looking at the midi Implementation chart in the Manual, it does list Local on/off as an "Auxiliary Function",

but the "x" indicates that the DX21 neither transmits or recognises that function. 8O

So you are left with the Midi on/off switch.

So if you want to have the DX21 itself controlled by midi, you can, just set the midi switch to ON

and don't play the keys . . . . :roll:

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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by Saul » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:13 am

So really if you wanted to use the DX21 purely to control another synth and by control I am only talking about actually playing the notes, your only option is to not connect the audio out of the DX21 or turn the volume down whilst using it to play another keyboard or piece of software. Who at Yamaha thought that was a great way to construct a MIDI enabled keyboard?
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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by Miks » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:08 am

parametric wrote:Looking at the midi Implementation chart in the Manual, it does list Local on/off as an "Auxiliary Function", but the "x" indicates that the DX21 neither transmits or recognises that function. 8O
If you look at the midi implementation chart of the DX7IID/FD it shows exact the same - but the DX7IID/FD indeed HAS the 'Local ON/OFF' feature implemented... 8O
My (key related) gear (in alphabetical order):
Ferrofish: B4000+
Kawai: K1 II
Korg: M1 (up'd to EX, w/ 'Cool Blue'), M1REX (w/ 'Cool Blue'), Poly-800
Roland: D-50, D-110, D-550, PG-1000
Yamaha: AW1600, DX7IID (w/ 'Cool Blue'), EX5R, RM50, RX5, SY99 (w/ 'Cool Blue'), TG500,
TX-802, YMM2
Sector101: SYEMB05 (5x), SYEMB06 (3x), EXFLM2 (1kit), MCD Sweet16 (1x), DataBlade32 (1x),
WaveBlade 8MB Card (1x) & 1x Programmer Unit for WaveBlade
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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:26 pm

parametric wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:08 am
Looking at the midi Implementation chart in the Manual, it does list Local on/off as an "Auxiliary Function",

but the "x" indicates that the DX21 neither transmits or recognises that function. 8O

So you are left with the Midi on/off switch.

So if you want to have the DX21 itself controlled by midi, you can, just set the midi switch to ON

and don't play the keys . . . . :roll:
That is correct, all joking apart.
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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by cake100 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:35 pm

Hello,
I picked up a replacement LCD and installed it having to cut and modify the steel encasing thing to fit it in.

Now how do I get the factory settings back as I only have the INIT voice?

Cheers.
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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by Miks » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:15 pm

Please see user's manual page 19: A11 'Load Internal Memory' - it shows how to load the voices from the internal ROM to the internal RAM 8)
My (key related) gear (in alphabetical order):
Ferrofish: B4000+
Kawai: K1 II
Korg: M1 (up'd to EX, w/ 'Cool Blue'), M1REX (w/ 'Cool Blue'), Poly-800
Roland: D-50, D-110, D-550, PG-1000
Yamaha: AW1600, DX7IID (w/ 'Cool Blue'), EX5R, RM50, RX5, SY99 (w/ 'Cool Blue'), TG500,
TX-802, YMM2
Sector101: SYEMB05 (5x), SYEMB06 (3x), EXFLM2 (1kit), MCD Sweet16 (1x), DataBlade32 (1x),
WaveBlade 8MB Card (1x) & 1x Programmer Unit for WaveBlade
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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by cake100 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:41 pm

Thanks. I figured it out.
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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by Miks » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:43 pm

My pleasure! 0-)
My (key related) gear (in alphabetical order):
Ferrofish: B4000+
Kawai: K1 II
Korg: M1 (up'd to EX, w/ 'Cool Blue'), M1REX (w/ 'Cool Blue'), Poly-800
Roland: D-50, D-110, D-550, PG-1000
Yamaha: AW1600, DX7IID (w/ 'Cool Blue'), EX5R, RM50, RX5, SY99 (w/ 'Cool Blue'), TG500,
TX-802, YMM2
Sector101: SYEMB05 (5x), SYEMB06 (3x), EXFLM2 (1kit), MCD Sweet16 (1x), DataBlade32 (1x),
WaveBlade 8MB Card (1x) & 1x Programmer Unit for WaveBlade
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Re: Yamaha DX21 (Help?)

Unread post by Abux » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:21 pm

cake100 wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:35 pm
Hello,
I picked up a replacement LCD and installed it having to cut and modify the steel encasing thing to fit it in.

Now how do I get the factory settings back as I only have the INIT voice?

Cheers.
How difficult was the modification, I’m thinking of doing the same thing
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