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HNGD AC3R

Unread post by jeff-carolina » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:57 pm

Just arrived today, and what a nice guitar. This is the AC3R model and it plays and sounds so nice!!!
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Re: HNGD AC3R

Unread post by Saul » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:54 am

Nice one Jeff. I have had the AC3R here for a while and it's a beautiful sounding guitar and plays so well. Definitely Yamaha at their best I think :)

First two pics didn't seem to make it by the way.
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Re: HNGD AC3R

Unread post by jeff-carolina » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:18 am

Hi Saul,
I spent an hour or so with it last night and about half that plugged in to the THR-10 and I'm very happy with it. I was not able to play one before buying it, but do feel I made a good choice. I'm curious to know if there is a distinguishable sound difference between it and the AC3M?
Not sure what I did, there were only 2 pictures?

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Unread post by Buzzard » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:04 pm

HNGD Jeff. ((i))

You should get some great sounds with the SRT system.
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Unread post by Saul » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:48 pm

Jeff there is quite a difference in tone between the AC3M and the AC3R. I have tried both and I much prefer the rich harmonic nature of the AC3R which of course is a characteristic of the rosewood back and sides. The AC3M has quite a warm sound to it but I didn't find it as inspiring to play. I think you have made a fantastic choice and it will only get better over time :)

As for the SRT system I am not a big fan but then I really don't like anything that utilises an under saddle piezo pickup. It just never sounds the same as when played acoustically. The best sounds come from either an internal mic fitted inside the body or an external mic a few inches away from the guitar. Of course that is my own subjective opinion and others may prefer the SRT.
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Re: HNGD AC3R

Unread post by jeff-carolina » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:54 pm

Hi Peter, I'm enjoying the range of sounds possible!!!
Saul, I agree, the unplugged sound is different than the piezo pickup. Played on the THR on the Acoustic setting, I like the range of sounds possible and just plain enjoy playing it. That being said the raw acoustic sound is better reproduced with a microphone. Thank you for the comparison to the AC3M, I was wanting something different, and it sounds like I made the right choice. Once I tuned it up and played it, I was convinced it was a good choice! I bought some Elixir Poly web 12-53 strings for it, but curious what your using on yours?
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Unread post by Saul » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:29 am

I use Elixir Nanoweb Custom Light 11 to 52 and they are some of the best strings I have played. They do cost quite a bit, I think nearly £16 a set here in the UK but you get what you pay for. They last three times as long as other strings so are actually good value for money. I also use FastFret from time to time as it make the strings last even longer and also conditions the fretboard.

I absolutely love the sound of a guitar with Rosewood back and sides. Having said that my current guitar, the Seagull S6 Original is Cedar top and Wild Cherry back and sides but that has it's own very unique sound which also suits my style of playing :)
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Unread post by jeff-carolina » Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:17 am

Saul,
I did read Yamaha was using Elixir's on the AC5 series of guitars and they were better accepted than what they normally use? I restring all my guitars with Elixir's and have had no issues. I buy from Amazon.com and they are $11.00 electric and $14.00 for acoustic. (I'm not sure the difference but I use all PolyWeb's)
Not having many acoustics I know little of how the wood effects the tonal quality. The clips I've heard with the Seagull sound good!! Is the neck a normal width? Thank-You

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Unread post by Saul » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:16 pm

The nut on the Seagull is a little wider than normal at 1.8 inches or 4.572 cm which makes it somewhat easier to play.

The tone woods used for acoustic guitars play a very large part in how it sounds, much more so than on an electric. It's quite a large subject to cover but I'll take the two examples of your AC3R and my Seagull S6 as a starter.

The AC3R of course is an all solid guitar so that's solid rosewood back and sides and solid sitka spruce top. With Sitka Spruce (America/Canada source) your getting a wood that is bright and loud in character and that ages well so the sound will continue to improve over time. Rosewood has a warmer character and provides good clarity at the lower end combined with excellent harmonics and a well rounded bell like tone in the upper registers. Combined with the characteristics of the Sitka Spruce top you end up with a well rounded guitar that positively shines in both rhythm and fingerpicking styles of playing.

The Seagull S6 Original combines a Canadian solid cedar top with 3 way laminated Canadian Cherry back and sides. The middle layer of the laminate is Birch. Tonally I would say it is between that warm mellow sound you get from mahogany and the slightly brighter sound of rosewood. The cedar top has a slightly darker sound than Spruce so less sparkle and more character. It's not as loud as spruce either so probably more suited to finger style than hard strumming or playing with a pick. The S6 won't have as much clarity across the range as your AC3R...but then it is half the price ;)

And yes your right in that Elixir strings are the preferred make for most of Yamaha's acoustics now :)
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Re: HNGD AC3R

Unread post by jeff-carolina » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:32 am

Thank-You Saul!!!
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