Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

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Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by scoobydoo123 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:14 pm

Hello everyone,

I am the owner of Yamaha TG-33.

I would like to know how to send my sysex files to Yamaha TG-33.
More specifically, how to set parameters in "UTILITY" (Receive Ch, Vector Ch, Prog Change, Bulk & Device #) to send successfully?

Can I count on a step-by-step instruction?

Thank you for everything.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by Sonus » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:49 am

TG33 manual p.89-90 ...

UM MIDI Receive Channel = OMNI
UM MIDI Vector Channel = 1
UM MIDI Program Change = ON
UM MIDI BULK System Exclusive = ON
UM MIDI BULK Device = ALL

16 multi bulk dump 'LM 0012MU' = 3346 bytes
64 voice bulk dump 'LM 0012VC' = 37631 bytes

Anyway, you need a good quality usb-midi interface.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by Ego_Shredder » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:06 pm

Whatever data you send using say MIDI-OX, make sure you slow the speed of the transfer down to allow the data to be received in full and intact.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by scoobydoo123 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:49 am

Thanks Sonus, success! I have M-AUDIO MIDISPORT 2x2.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by scoobydoo123 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:37 pm

Taking advantage of the opportunity I have one more question that bothered me. Is it possible to load to TG-33 or SY-85 .mid files? Having only a single .mid file and not having .syx? I have some patches/soundbanks, but only files in .mid format.

Can someone explain whether the .mid file contains the same messages as .sysex (in this case, the voice/sound)?

So far, I've been using SysEx Librarian on Mac, but as the name suggests it only reads sysex files. Midi files failed to upload. I tried some time ago the MIDI OX program, but somehow I could not send it to my TG-33.

Thanks in advance for any valuable advice.

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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by Derek » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:47 pm

MID files only contain embedded SYSEX, so is there a tool out there (like your DAW) that allows you to open a MID file and save off the SYSEX?
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by squishmusic » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:19 am

Wow. Ive never heard of this 'speed transfer' tip before regards to SysEx data!
Is that necessary always, sometimes?
Ego_Shredder wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:06 pm
Whatever data you send using say MIDI-OX, make sure you slow the speed of the transfer down to allow the data to be received in full and intact.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by parametric » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:48 am

scoobydoo123 wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:37 pm
Taking advantage of the opportunity I have one more question that bothered me. Is it possible to load to TG-33 or SY-85 .mid files? Having only a single .mid file and not having .syx? I have some patches/soundbanks, but only files in .mid format.
All I can offer here regarding file names for the SY85 . . . .are these file EXTENSIONS

I'm not sure about the TG-33? - may be the same . . . or not . . .

Sequences/Voices/Banks are .G01 - .G99

Samples (.WAV) Files become .W01 - .W99 (check what bit/kHz the SY expects)

Midi Files (.MID) become .X01 - .X99 (check for type 0/1 compatibility if importing to the SY)

Also, if you have MYSONG1.X01 and MYSONG2.X01 (the system WILL allow this) on the SAME DISK -

only the FIRST .X01 will display in a listing.

You can RENAME MYSONG1.X01 to MYSONG1.mid and it will behave as a midi file in your PC, or elsewhere . . .

I'm pretty sure this will work the other way - from .mid to .X01 - but check which TYPE (0 or 1) midi file the SY expects

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