Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

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Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by scoobydoo123 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:14 pm

Hello everyone,

I am the owner of Yamaha TG-33.

I would like to know how to send my sysex files to Yamaha TG-33.
More specifically, how to set parameters in "UTILITY" (Receive Ch, Vector Ch, Prog Change, Bulk & Device #) to send successfully?

Can I count on a step-by-step instruction?

Thank you for everything.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by Sonus » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:49 am

TG33 manual p.89-90 ...

UM MIDI Receive Channel = OMNI
UM MIDI Vector Channel = 1
UM MIDI Program Change = ON
UM MIDI BULK System Exclusive = ON
UM MIDI BULK Device = ALL

16 multi bulk dump 'LM 0012MU' = 3346 bytes
64 voice bulk dump 'LM 0012VC' = 37631 bytes

Anyway, you need a good quality usb-midi interface.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by Ego_Shredder » Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:06 pm

Whatever data you send using say MIDI-OX, make sure you slow the speed of the transfer down to allow the data to be received in full and intact.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by scoobydoo123 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:49 am

Thanks Sonus, success! I have M-AUDIO MIDISPORT 2x2.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by scoobydoo123 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:37 pm

Taking advantage of the opportunity I have one more question that bothered me. Is it possible to load to TG-33 or SY-85 .mid files? Having only a single .mid file and not having .syx? I have some patches/soundbanks, but only files in .mid format.

Can someone explain whether the .mid file contains the same messages as .sysex (in this case, the voice/sound)?

So far, I've been using SysEx Librarian on Mac, but as the name suggests it only reads sysex files. Midi files failed to upload. I tried some time ago the MIDI OX program, but somehow I could not send it to my TG-33.

Thanks in advance for any valuable advice.

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Unread post by Derek » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:47 pm

MID files only contain embedded SYSEX, so is there a tool out there (like your DAW) that allows you to open a MID file and save off the SYSEX?
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by squishmusic » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:19 am

Wow. Ive never heard of this 'speed transfer' tip before regards to SysEx data!
Is that necessary always, sometimes?
Ego_Shredder wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:06 pm
Whatever data you send using say MIDI-OX, make sure you slow the speed of the transfer down to allow the data to be received in full and intact.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by parametric » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:48 am

scoobydoo123 wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:37 pm
Taking advantage of the opportunity I have one more question that bothered me. Is it possible to load to TG-33 or SY-85 .mid files? Having only a single .mid file and not having .syx? I have some patches/soundbanks, but only files in .mid format.
All I can offer here regarding file names for the SY85 . . . .are these file EXTENSIONS

I'm not sure about the TG-33? - may be the same . . . or not . . .

Sequences/Voices/Banks are .G01 - .G99

Samples (.WAV) Files become .W01 - .W99 (check what bit/kHz the SY expects)

Midi Files (.MID) become .X01 - .X99 (check for type 0/1 compatibility if importing to the SY)

Also, if you have MYSONG1.X01 and MYSONG2.X01 (the system WILL allow this) on the SAME DISK -

only the FIRST .X01 will display in a listing.

You can RENAME MYSONG1.X01 to MYSONG1.mid and it will behave as a midi file in your PC, or elsewhere . . .

I'm pretty sure this will work the other way - from .mid to .X01 - but check which TYPE (0 or 1) midi file the SY expects

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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by Ego_Shredder » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:58 pm

squishmusic wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:19 am
Wow. Ive never heard of this 'speed transfer' tip before regards to SysEx data!
Is that necessary always, sometimes?
Ego_Shredder wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2017 7:06 pm
Whatever data you send using say MIDI-OX, make sure you slow the speed of the transfer down to allow the data to be received in full and intact.
You do not always have to send data slowly, but this is often the case if the receiving hardware has low computing power. Back in my Atari STE days with Cubase, I would often slow the tempo at the beginning of the song to allow all the seperate sys exc bulk dumps to complete. Once those were in the song would switch to the tempo of the actual music.
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by vekter303 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:14 pm

im looking to send sysex to my newly bought tg33.

seems to be loads of patches available which is pretty cool and i would like to edit too. so i have a couple of questions.

hopefully using the roland um one mkii should be okay, as far as sending the sysex, which program would tg users recommend?

and what editors would users recommend?

many thanks!
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Re: Yamaha TG-33 send .sysex.

Unread post by gregholwell » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:23 am

For some freeware editors found in 2003 see viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13025&p=76999
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