No Love for SY-55?

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No Love for SY-55?

Unread post by baronvoncase » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:57 am

http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/sy22.php
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/sy35.php
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/sy77.php
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/sy85.php
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/sy99.php

Where, oh where, is the 55?

I mean, WE have a forum for it, so why would VSE not have a page about it? What has it done to so greatly offend the Explorers? :wink:

I am interested in its specs. Being that it was produced in 1990, it may have better MIDI implementation than the '80s DX line.

The goal is to find something with a DX7 feel, without the pain of dealing with the limited '0-100' velocity problem. The limitation is subtle, but it can cause problems with a number of patches.



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Re: No Love for SY-55?

Unread post by Saul » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:54 am

It's a much overlooked synth in the SY range. Not sure why as it's a pretty good keyboard. Anyway I have put up a sticky with all the specs and features also check out the youtube demo as I thought it sounded quite impressive. The guy also mentions it has "aftertouch" ? Not sure about that but if it does it could be a pretty nice controller keyboard if nothing else :)


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Re: No Love for SY-55?

Unread post by Clyde » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:22 pm

Probably overlooked because it appears to have a small 2mb wave rom (only 76 waves), the small user ram area appears to not be expandable, the quick look I took at a couple of sites did not reaveal anything impressive. A mid range limited wave form rompler, I would expect it to be easily passed by.
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Re: No Love for SY-55?

Unread post by Saul » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:12 pm

Sure but it's no worse than the SY22 and SY35 but they were not passed by. I remember when the SY55 came out it was being used by a number of pro keyboardists at the time...perhaps because they were endorsed by Yamaha? however it's still a very useful keyboard and is sounds just fine.


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Re: No Love for SY-55?

Unread post by Clyde » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:17 pm

The SY22/35 both had vector synthesis which I think made them more attractive to many users. The SY55 was like a cut down version of the SY85, much like the DX7s was a cut down version of the DX7IID/FD and never sold very well.
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Re: No Love for SY-55?

Unread post by Ego_Shredder » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:34 pm

If I remember correctly the SY55 came out ages before the SY85 and I bought mine in May 1991, so it was actually a cut down SY77. Many years later I added a used TG55 and all seven WAVE & DATA card sets, plus all the DATA card sets that I was missing from my collection to add to my existing three loaded RAM cards etc.

The SY55 is a fantastic synth which I appreciate far more now than I did in 1991, and yes it does have aftertouch and one of the factory presets uses it on the harmonica patch really excellently. I remember using the SY22 around the same time and was very unimpressed with it, even though it had the vector feature which was wasted on that keyboard; mind you I had something similar on my PSS790 at that time. I also used the SY77 at the time and was not sufficiently impressed to buy that over the SY55, although I appreciate it can do more but the basic performance and sound is not different enough. Oh and the MIDI spec on the SY55 is amazing, much like many other Yamaha products.


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Re: No Love for SY-55?

Unread post by Saul » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:59 pm

Yes your right in that the SY85 came out in 92 but it's of the same family i.e AWM2 synthesis as opposed to the SY77's AWM/FM mix. So the SY55 doesn't really have anything to do with the SY77.

The SY55 is a far more powerful and better sounding keyboard than the SY22 or SY35 and still extremely useful today either as a controller keyboard with it's extensive midi spec and aftertouch or as a sound source in it's own right. Not seen many of them about though.


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Re: No Love for SY-55?

Unread post by Clyde » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:00 am

For whatever reason, some keyboards just never take off and sell well. They can have better features and specs than other keyboards priced close to them and just don't sell. It very often makes no sense and you can't really explain why. And I agree with Saul, the SY55 is a cut down SY85 and has nothing to do with the SY77/99.
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Re: No Love for SY-55?

Unread post by Ego_Shredder » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:15 pm

Yeah I guess the SY55 architecture is more like the SY85 than the SY77, I was merely following the release timeline. I was never into sampling my own sounds, so the SY85 extra features are of no use to me. I remember how excited people were over the SY85, and even seven years later when one was traded in to the store I worked at in 1999. I only ever saw my SY55 on TV about twice, but usually it was always the Korg M1, Roland D50, Yamaha DX7 or SY77. However the TG55 did seem very popular and more highly regarded for some unknown reason!


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