SY99 G.A.S.

The Yamaha SY99 is a synthesiser combining frequency modulation synthesis (branded as Advanced FM) and sample-based synthesis (branded as Advanced Wave Memory 2) and the direct successor to Yamaha's SY77/TG77

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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by Derek » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:11 am

It looks lovely. :)

I need to get the display on mine upgraded as soon as possible!


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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by Derek » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:27 pm

Well, the floppy drive is functioning again, once the slack belt was replaced with a new one; took about 30 minutes, and I've written a guide to help others facing the same problem. I tested it by loading the Yes 90125 demo, which is awesome!

The next job is the cool blue upgrade for the display, as I am going to get eyestrain on the current one! And I think I'm going to max the RAM out whilst there's a source of boards.


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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by Clyde » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:38 am

Glad your drive is up and running, I think the display upgrade and the ram upgrades are both excellent choices to make your SY99 more enjoyable.
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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by EX5_etc » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:24 am

Derek wrote:Well, the floppy drive is functioning again, once the slack belt was replaced with a new one; took about 30 minutes, and I've written a guide to help others facing the same problem. I tested it by loading the Yes 90125 demo, which is awesome!
So, you won't even consider the 34-pin drive upgrade. Poor synth... :cry:

Back in the day when I made the first adapter I did not have the luxury of changing belts. There were no belts to be found in the middle of nowhere. I also could not stand the idea of belts, it was so '80s. :) My Mac was blazing fast at 25MHz :mrgreen: and I had to have a modern drive inside the SY99.

I don't think I have heard of the Yes 90125 demo before. Is that an abbreviation of some file or what?

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Unread post by Clyde » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:05 am

Thinking back, I don't recall that demo either, would like to run across that.
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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by Derek » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:43 pm

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Derek wrote:Well, the floppy drive is functioning again, once the slack belt was replaced with a new one; took about 30 minutes, and I've written a guide to help others facing the same problem. I tested it by loading the Yes 90125 demo, which is awesome!
So, you won't even consider the 34-pin drive upgrade. Poor synth... :cry:

Back in the day when I made the first adapter I did not have the luxury of changing belts. There were no belts to be found in the middle of nowhere. I also could not stand the idea of belts, it was so '80s. :) My Mac was blazing fast at 25MHz :mrgreen: and I had to have a modern drive inside the SY99.

I don't think I have heard of the Yes 90125 demo before. Is that an abbreviation of some file or what?

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The belt was good enough for me, as I'm only interested in the floppy drive until I get MIDI comms in sy.factory fully working. :)

Yes 90125 is a sequenced version of Yes "Owner of a Lonely Heart" from the 90125 album in a TNN file, with the hook line "owner of a lonely heart" as an SY99 Custom Wave. The song itself is pretty well programmed and a nice SY99 show case (I am a Yes fan of course!). If you PM me an email address I'll send the TNN file to yourself and Clyde (I have Clyde's email already of course).


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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by Clyde » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:10 am

Thanks for that Derek, I am a huge Yes fan and have been ever since their first album came out (early '70s I think). Never seen this demo so should be interesting.
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Unread post by Clyde » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:12 am

One more question Derek, do you already have a cool blue for yours? I ask because I did not order any and if you find a current vendor I need to pick up two of them.
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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by Derek » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:28 pm

Clyde wrote:One more question Derek, do you already have a cool blue for yours? I ask because I did not order any and if you find a current vendor I need to pick up two of them.
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Hi, Clyde, Not yet, but I'll shortly be ordering two: one for the TG77 (which currently has my backlight foil repaired old SY77 display) and the SY99. I need to do it before I screw my eyes up on the SY99 one, which is pretty dim! I'll be ordering the ones mentioned on the TG77 upgrade thread, but will confirm my choice with you.


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Unread post by Derek » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:31 pm

Clyde wrote:Thanks for that Derek, I am a huge Yes fan and have been ever since their first album came out (early '70s I think). Never seen this demo so should be interesting.
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I'm a huge fan as well, and managed to see them three times. I quite like 90125, some if it is a little 80's but on the whole it has stood the test of time well (and better then other 80s stuff!).

I quite like the new one, and I'm also getting into Beniot's other band "Mystery". Worth checking out.


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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by EX5_etc » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:10 pm

A source of blue 240x64 displays in the USA is as always ebay. This one seems to be a good fit but prospective buyers need to check complete dimensions, pinout arrangement, etc:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0972918575

The interesting part about this display is than even the PCB is blue. The price at about $44 is not the lowest considering than when I did the first SY99 display mod years ago we used to pay a little less than $30. In any case the controller of that display is compatible with the TC6963 used in the SY99, SY77, TG77 and many others.

If you do not trust ebay you can get it from here for $65, plus S/H and tax:
http://www.crystalfontz.com/product/CFAG24064A-FMI-TZ

or you can go into the dark side of things with black background and white letters on it for $69, plus S/H and tax; change the product number on the previous link to CFAG24064A-FTI-TZ.

For those in the UK there is this item:
http://www.mcustore.com/options-spares/ ... c-lcd.html

It appears to already have a connector on it; that could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your approach as you perform the LCD replacement. The price is higher than that on ebay of course.

By the way I sent a PM to Derek about that demo file but I have the impression that it did not go through. Did it?


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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by EX5_etc » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:13 am

Thanks for the demo file Derek. For a moment I was like "wait a moment, since when I own an FS1R?" because of the vocal intro. It's better than the "GREGOR" vocal intro. Pretty impressive for the time the SY99 was produced. I did notice a difference though. Every time I load a demo file the operator/track lights on the right side light up automatically. Not with this demo though. I have to press buttons for them to light up. Different settings I presume.

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Unread post by Clyde » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:43 am

And DrF, thank you as always for your pertinent info about the displays, I really need to get this done.
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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by EX5_etc » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:12 am

The reason behind my updated LCD posts is that I frequently search the net for a blue LCD that I can install on my EX5R. The SY series and many other Yamaha synths use a display controlled by the TC6963 (or equivalent) chip. The EX5 series, A4000, A5000 and some Motif synths use LCDs controlled by the SED1335 (or equivalent) chip. They make blue 320x240 LCDs for the SED1335 but no 240x64 that I need. So, while I search the net for my needs the links for the SY compatible displays come up and I post them.

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Re: SY99 G.A.S.

Unread post by Derek » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:51 pm

Thanks for the info EX5_Etc. And I'm glad that you like the demo. I have the Gregor one as it was a sample file when I was writing the SY99 support in sy.factory (before having one!), so I'll have to fire it up and take a listen now that I have one!


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