PSR F-51 - Any good?

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PSR F-51 - Any good?

Unread post by FailedMuso » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:04 pm

I'm looking to buy a starter keyboard for my soon-to-be 13 year old son. For now, he's using my Alesis Fusion which is WAY more than he actually needs as he is only just starting to learn how to play. Plus, I'm not terribly keen on having that beast in his room, especially when he has friends over and they're getting all rowdy over Fortnite or Nerf battles! :lol:

So, I want to start him off slowly and thought the F-51 struck the right balance of simplicity and good sounds and not too expensive in case he decides not to pursue it.

Anyone tried one or have any thoughts on it? It's a shame it doesn't have MIDI. That would've future-proofed it a bit.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: PSR F-51 - Any good?

Unread post by 2112 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:11 am

Don't buy F51 or E263, basically don't buy anything without MIDI over USB. You really want to be able to update/upload the built-in lesson songs. Or you may also be looking for time/money trade-off by buying computer-monitored/online lessons. Also F51 has fixed touch/velocity response, whereas E263 at least has variable velocities, with an option to disable. Edit: Sorry, I was wrong, they both have fixed velocity keys. End edit.

In the current Yamaha's lineup lowest end sensible models are EZ-220 and PSR-E363. EZ-220 has lighted keys and fingering guide on the LCD display. With PSR-E363 you would have to print the songbook to get fingering guides for the lessons. But the first 8 songs in that model are arranged in two levels of difficulty each (for the total of 16 introductory songs). This is a great tool for maintaining interest and motivation in the study.

As far as tone goes, everything digital and reasonably modern is more than adequate for a student. They days of weird, grating, unstable sounds from the educational toys are gone.

Edit: Also, all current entry-level keyboards can work on batteries (6*AA or similar). So if you had to learn your piano by getting chained in your room during the sunny days, you don't have to impose that on your progeny. Just buy the sunscreen and re-charger.
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Re: PSR F-51 - Any good?

Unread post by FailedMuso » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:34 pm

I ended up going with the YPT-255 as it features built in educational aspects and I'm more keen for him to learn the basics rather than having something too expensive with MIDI and have him lose interest. I've got plenty of synths and controllers if he wants to expand later, or even use his iPad and Garageband.

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Re: PSR F-51 - Any good?

Unread post by Saul » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:07 pm

Hope that works out well Rob.

I had a situation a few years back when I didn't go with my gut and instead bought a keyboard for a friends son that couldn't be easily connected to a computer and that kind of killed his interest.

Had he been able to hook it up to the computer he would have been able to access a whole world of sounds and possibilities instead of being stuck with what the keyboard came with. Won't be making that mistake again! Better to buy too much than too little.

However in your case of course your son does have access to many more sounds etc via your own keyboards so that is not really an issue.

Generally speaking though 2112 is right and always best to buy something that has at least midi over usb if not a full audio interface.
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Re: PSR F-51 - Any good?

Unread post by SeaGtGruff » Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:08 pm

Also, the PSR-E2xx/YPT-2xx models do NOT have velocity-sensitive keyboards. One of the PSR-E3xx/YPT-3xx models would have been a better choice as far as having velocity sensitivity and MIDI connectivity, although it would also have cost more. Hopefully the YPT-255 will be sufficient to whet his whistle without killing his thirst-- especially since you have plenty of synths and controllers that he can branch out to as his interest and needs grow! :)
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