Brexit

A Place to blow off some steam. If your annoyed, angry, generally fed up with things here is your place to let it all out

Moderators: Derek, parametric, Saul

User avatar
tux
Senior Member
Senior Member
Posts: 1174
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:42 am
Kiribati

Re: Brexit

Unread post by tux » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:03 pm

Saul wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:52 pm
Most of us would rather not pay money to anyone else but where do your public services then come from? Who builds and maintains the roads and provides street lighting and cleaning? Who funds the police service, the fire service, border services and judiciary? What about public buildings such as libraries and schools? Plus of course here in the UK we have the National Health Service and the Welfare services. It's a long list of things we all take for granted.
I'm fine with that but most of the taxes do not get used for these things, as I said most gets syphoned off into the coffers of the ultra-rich without any benefit for the common people.
After all Switzerland has low taxes with high quality public services and the primary reason for that is the direct say everybody has in how money is being spent. Their tax system is also much better because it's upside-down compared to everywhere else, most of the taxes you pay in Switzerland go to your local council, only a very small percentage goes to the national government.
Saul wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:52 pm
we elect the people who run the country and can throw them out of office at the next election
That's an illusion, at best you can choose between 2 or 3 thieves which have been pre-selected by other thieves to represent their interests, not yours.
My Yamaha RM50 page
My Yamaha synths: RM50, TG77, TG500, EX5R, CS6R (with PLG150-AN and PLG150-DX)
User avatar
Saul
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 10391
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:00 am
Contact:
Ireland

Re: Brexit

Unread post by Saul » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:26 pm

It's not an illusion at all. We are all very well aware of what the situation is and we choose the best of a bad bunch. We all know politicians tend to talk complete bollox and will say whatever suits in order to get elected, there is no mystery about that. They then blame the previous incumbent for why they cannot now make good on the promises they made during the election. It's a story we have read over and over.

However there are some who are better than others...not perfect but definitely better. The problem is getting enough of them together in the same party AND with a chance of being elected.

In a country the size of the UK we can't micro manage government decisions. We can't go to a referendum every time there is a major decision to be made. It would cost enormous sums of money that could be better spent elsewhere. Also we would have endless debate and arguing. If you think it's bad now just throw all these decisions open to the people and see where we end up!

What we do definitely need is transparency in government and that is something we will never have. There is far too much "behind closed doors" nonsense going on. Too many vested interests pushing and pulling at government ministers to get their own agenda carried out.

I don't have a solution for any of this and I'm not sure anyone does. There is corruption and ineptitude in all governments and that is never going to change because humans are corruptible and susceptible to all sorts of influences they have little or no control over.
Saul
Site Admin
Subscribe To Our YouTube Channel!
Review Yamahamusicians.com on Trustpilot
Sign up to the Newsletter
Follow us on Twitter @YamahaMusicians
Follow Us On Facebook
Dowina Acoustic Guitars: Dowina Cabernet DC
Dowina Chardonnay GAC DS - Dowina Rustica GAC - Dowina Marus - Dowina Puella

Seagull S6 Original/Vintage VE2000GG Gordon Giltrap/Ashbury AG-160/Roland FA-07/Pianoteq 6 Pro/Amplitube 3.0/Apple iMac 27"/Logic Pro X/Cubase AI 9/Absynth 5/Ableton Live 9/KRK Rokit RP5 G3 Monitors
User avatar
Buzzard
Specialist Moderator
Specialist Moderator
Posts: 2421
Joined: Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:38 pm
Contact:
Denmark

Re: Brexit

Unread post by Buzzard » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:43 pm

:lol: ((i)) :lol: ((i)) :lol: ((i)) :lol: ((i)) :lol: ((i)) :lol: ((i)) :lol: ((i)) :lol: ((i)) :lol: ((i)) :lol: ((i))
Yamaholic, Guitars, Amps and Bikes. :idea: My Guitars: http://www.yamahamusicians.com/forum/vi ... =24&t=7004 :idea:
User avatar
Saul
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 10391
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:00 am
Contact:
Ireland

Re: Brexit

Unread post by Saul » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:09 pm

I though that was hilarious :)

I think it probably sums up what Europeans "think" that we think about them. Which couldn't be further from the truth. Yes there are some "little Englanders" here, bigots and racists but you get those in all countries. I would hope that most of us have a good opinion about our European neighbours. I certainly do. Half my family is French, the other half being Irish and then of course there is my lovely wife Sasha and her family who are Ukrainian...not in the EU yet but we live in hope ;)

No, what we tend to complain about is not the countries IN the EU but the completely incompetent, un elected chinless wonders that run it. I wonder if there is a song about them? ;)
Saul
Site Admin
Subscribe To Our YouTube Channel!
Review Yamahamusicians.com on Trustpilot
Sign up to the Newsletter
Follow us on Twitter @YamahaMusicians
Follow Us On Facebook
Dowina Acoustic Guitars: Dowina Cabernet DC
Dowina Chardonnay GAC DS - Dowina Rustica GAC - Dowina Marus - Dowina Puella

Seagull S6 Original/Vintage VE2000GG Gordon Giltrap/Ashbury AG-160/Roland FA-07/Pianoteq 6 Pro/Amplitube 3.0/Apple iMac 27"/Logic Pro X/Cubase AI 9/Absynth 5/Ableton Live 9/KRK Rokit RP5 G3 Monitors
User avatar
EXer
Member
Member
Posts: 169
Joined: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:15 pm
France

Re: Brexit

Unread post by EXer » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:52 pm

Just for fun:

Image

- Should we leave EU?
- Were we in?
EX5 EX5 EX5R FS1R TX81Z TX81Z TX7 A4000
EX5Tech Member #101
User avatar
monsterjazzlicks
Super Patch Creator
Super Patch Creator
Posts: 1652
Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:37 pm
Great Britain

Re: Brexit

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:57 pm

Hi,

Roll on next year. I can't wait until were OUT! It's just a shame UKIP are not running the show. In saying that though, Henry Bolton was a dreadful Leader (I never voted for him btw!).

I wonder what would have happened if we had accepted that ridiculous EURO currency 20 years ago? Would the Royal Mint now have to put us back on STERLING again?!

Ta,

Paul
Fender Rhodes Suitcase / Fender Rhodes Stage / MiniMoog Model D / MultiMoog / Hohner E7 Clavinet / Yamaha DX7 (Mk1), DX21 & DX27 / Roland Juno 6 / Korg Poly_61.

Mackie SRM 350 (pair), Fender DeVille, Yamaha HS7 (pair), BeyerDynamic DT880 Headphones (250 Ohm).

Cubase 9.5 / Sibelius 8.5

Dell Inspiron N5040, Windows 10 Home, 16GB RAM, 64-bit, 2.13gHz, Service Pack 1.
Post Reply

Return to “Don't Get Me Started!”