APX Electro acoustic strings

APX series guitars are designed with a focus on playability. Their thin bodies and cutaways that provide greater access to the upper frets, offer smoother switching between electric and acoustic instruments.

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Have you lowered the action on your Yamaha APX?

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APX Electro acoustic strings

Unread post by madasadad » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:07 am

I went in to my local shop to buy a set of strings for my, soon to be arriving, APX700. I asked for Elixr Phosphor Bronze, but they gave me 80/20 Bronze. Will these still work ok on my guitar when plugged in?
I've also heard a few reports that the action is on the high side out of the box. Any comments from fellow users? I'm a beginner and am looking for a lower action than the Yamaha FG300-A I had, it cut the fingers off me! Great sound but too sore to play!
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Unread post by Saul » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:27 am

The 80/20's will be fine. They are on the light side so you should find them very easy on the fingers :)

As for the action on the APX, I have always found them to be very playable out of the box. Certainly the action is lower than the CPX, which I have. If your APX action proves to be a little high out of the box, it should not cost much to have it sorted. Any decent guitar shop should be able to do that for you fairly quickly.

I would not advise trying to adjust the action yourself unless you know what you are doing. It's way too easy to make a guitar completely unplayable by making the wrong adjustments. At least if a shop messes up they will have to pay for it :)
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Unread post by madasadad » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:21 am

Thanks Saul
What are the benefits of the Phosphor Bronze over the 80/20 bronze?
Is it worth the trip into town, the parking and the time it'll all take to change to the Phosphor Bronze?
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Unread post by Saul » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:40 am

madasadad wrote:Thanks Saul
What are the benefits of the Phosphor Bronze over the 80/20 bronze?
Is it worth the trip into town, the parking and the time it'll all take to change to the Phosphor Bronze?
Well actually there isn't much difference. They are both coated to combat corrosion and prolong the "new" sound of the strings. I would use the 80/20's for now and see how you get on with them. Finding the right strings for YOU, is a matter of trial and error. I often change to a different type of string when replacing my set. You just have to experiment :)
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Unread post by madasadad » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:16 pm

I received my guitar today, APX 500 in Deep Red Sunburst. WOW, I needn't have worried about the action, low E 2.5mm and high E 1.75mm at 12th fret, even the stock strings are ok, but i'll put the 80/20 on tomorrow. Beautiful guitar, faultlessly built, surprisingly good sound for its size. All for £204..... bargain and well pleased.
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Unread post by Saul » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:16 am

Glad to hear it's all ok. The APX is a superb guitar and worth every penny :) Let me know how you get on with the new strings.
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Unread post by madasadad » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:13 pm

Fitted the new strings this evening. EA are a bit thin sounding, probably a function of the size of the guitar, but DGBE are quite mellow. Definately a worthwhile move to change the strings. I'm finding a bit of fret buzz on the E and A strings only. Any ideas? For all my "commenting" could my action be too low!
I've spoken to a few people who recommend leaving any new guitar in for a proper set up. What do you think?
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Unread post by Saul » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:33 am

I would absolutely agree that any new guitar should be put in the shop for a pro set up and certainly in this case, where the change of strings has brought to light some fret buzz it would be a few pounds well spent.
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Unread post by Clyde » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:10 am

I would think it's a fine idea to have a new guitar professionally "set up". When my wife bought her Steinway years ago she made three trips to Steinway&Sons in NY to play her piano and tell them what she liked/disliked so they could "voice" it and set up the action for her. You can find a wide variation in different examples of an acoustic instrument so it is good practice to have a tech go over it.
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Unread post by madasadad » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:38 pm

Thanks for the advice, my tutor played it today and was very impressed with the finish of the Dark Red Burst, the sound quality and couldn't find any fret buzz!. Beginner technique, I fear! I'll just wait patiently by the mail box to wait for my ticket to Yamaha so they can sort it out for me :wink:
I'll probably give myself a couple of weeks to get used to it and then leave it in. Anyone know of any luthiers in Northern Ireland?
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Unread post by Saul » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:42 pm

madasadad wrote:Anyone know of any luthiers in Northern Ireland?
Any decent guitar shop will have someone who does all their set ups/repairs for them so just pop into the nearest one and ask :)
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Unread post by madasadad » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:27 pm

Thanks, will let you know how i get on.
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Unread post by FuzzCowboy » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:42 am

madasadad wrote:Thanks, will let you know how i get on.
I see that you have been well taken care of here, but I will add that
I have been told that when a new guitar leaves the shop that you
should play it for a few months before bringing it back to have the
neck adjusted.

I was told that the neck will tend to shift a bit so wait a few months
and break it in a bit first. Having said that, I have tried numerous
APX and CPX guitars in shops and have found the action to be
quite different from one guitar to another. Some are very easy to
play while others clearly need to be set-up or set-up again.

Also, depending on where you live, if there is considerable humidity
changes during the year you might want to have the neck tuned up
a couple times a year. I don't know this for a fact but it is something a
guitar technician told me. Were they looking for more business or
does the neck shift that much in different times of year? I will let
others confirm or dispute it.
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Unread post by Saul » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:05 am

Never heard of any of that myself, certainly not about the neck shifting. It's possible I suppose but in practice I have never come across it.

As for letting the guitar bed in for a couple of months, again I don't see the evidence for this. If a guitar is set up properly it will stay that way for a considerable amount of time. My last guitar didn't need any sort of work done for over twenty years and only then because the frets had worn quite badly.

So...it's possible your guitar tech was right but all I can say for certain is I have never heard of this information.
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Unread post by FuzzCowboy » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:29 pm

Hi Saul

Thanks for your imput. As I was typing my post I was thinking
that there are probably plenty of guitars out there that have
gone twenty years without the neck being adjusted.

Maybe it was just him looking to get me to come back every
six months for more business?

My CPX I have is fine and the shop I bought it from said I
had one free set up coming to me. But I would have to leave
it with them for a week.. yikes! I would rather pay for one and
get it back a few hours later.

Thanks again :-)
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