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Web shops & Five stars ratings

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Re: Web shops & Five stars ratings

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GOOD idea, Saul !👍
I will open that thread immediately. 😃
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Re: Web shops & Five stars ratings

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sonic2000gr wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:30 am
amwilburn wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:35 am Because even within Rolands, I would never recommend the FP10/FP30 for anyone other than absolute beginners or jazz pianists (*the* key action is really slow. *typo
Now that's the kind of info you can never get anywhere.
I am really far from that level of piano playing, I had played more than a few times on the FP30x, but I wanted to make sure my piano lasts me for a long time, so I bought the 515.
The P515 is an *excellent* choice (best portable piano keys you can buy at any price) *but* with a huge caveat: you know how you're supposed to spline when playing back a sound sample rather than the raw, aliased sample data? The P515 apparently does the latter (try hitting a high note, like an octave or 2 above middle C with a Fortissimo strike, and you'll hear a very loud digital hiss at the start and as the sample tapers off). Which unfortunately, for someone with hearing above 20khz is unacceptable (we've had returns due to that, yes). Neither the 525 nor the CP88 have this issue btw... I don't even remember the last time I ran across the aliased sound issue... over 20 years ago I think.

Anyway, there *is* a quick fix (more of a cheat), so don't panic: Go to the 3 band EQ, change it to a downward slope (+4db, 0, -6) and it will mitigate the digital glare due to lack of spline curve rendering.

Yes it's ridiculous that it's even an issue, but unfortunately (?) the 515 has as good keys as the CP88 (I actually don't like the longer 525 keys as much... same weighting, longer fulcrum, which should give you more pianissimo control, but without increasing the weighting? The keys just end up feeling slightlyl lighter. And since you already bought it, if you haven't even noticed it yet, don't worry about it (it means you don't play that hard, which is a good thing regarding any digital piano using those rubber button contacts... which is *all* portables)

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Re: Web shops & Five stars ratings

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amwilburn wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:35 pm Which unfortunately, for someone with hearing above 20khz is unacceptable (we've had returns due to that, yes). Neither the 525 nor the CP88 have this issue btw... I don't even remember the last time I ran across the aliased sound issue... over 20 years ago I think.
I remember the aliasing in some older Casio arrangers. Very evident esp. with heaphones. At the tail end of a note.
(Un)fortunately, the days where my hearing was at or above 20 KHz, are long gone. (As a teen, I was actually hearing stuff probably above 20 KHz from what I remember).
And, yes, I don't play that hard actually (and usually I also keep the speaker volume to logical levels) so I expect the contacts to last a long time. I am overall very satisfied with it. It's also quite impressive in white, much better than what you see in photos.
Before buying it (and with no way of testing, and having never bought weighted keys before) I read a lot of contradicting things about it, mostly people saying the touch was very heavy and others saying it was just perfect. In the end I feel the keybed is just about perfect and feels quite premium.
Since then I've tried the standard GHS on P45 (didn't like it), GHC on a P225 (felt somewhat better) and PHA4 in FP30X (quite ok for me). But yes, the 515 is better than all of these.
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