Competition Between Keyboard-centric Sites.

[dexman]

I was looking at keyboardforum's site and spotted a somewhat "snarkey" topic that took aim at various keyboard forums.

Having worked in telecommunications for most of my career, I became accustomed to seeing back and forth sniping between members of the different help forums.

But that ended a while ago. Now telecom forums tend to just do their own thing without attacking each other.

Here is the topic I spotted:

https://www.keyboardforums.com/threads/ ... com.35819/

Does the "competition mindset" really still exist in the keyboard-centric forums?

[Saul]

I read through that whole thread and did find a few concering statements there, which I will look into later but, I am nnot sure it is really competition between the forums/websites but more between people who prefer one brand over another.

Although this forum is probably 80% Yamaha focused there is often discussion about Korg, Roland, Casio and many other brands too. They are all very relevant because some have features we would like to see on Yamaha keyboards, others perhaps do things a little better. Maybe they have better customer support in place etc.

The bottom line is we are all musicians. There is no need at all for division. Music is supposed to bring us together. We can certainly have differeng opinions but is there need for so much animosity?

[apri11a]

I was looking at keyboardforum's site and spotted a somewhat "snarkey" topic that took aim at various keyboard forums.

Having worked in telecommunications for most of my career, I became accustomed to seeing back and forth sniping between members of the different help forums.

But that ended a while ago. Now telecom forums tend to just do their own thing without attacking each other.

Here is the topic I spotted:

https://www.keyboardforums.com/threads/ ... com.35819/

Does the "competition mindset" really still exist in the keyboard-centric forums?

I don't think that. keyboardforum is around a long time and it's regulars are well used to each other, there's often snarky banter there. It's just their fun really, if you read more posts you might see that. But if help is needed, you can get it.

There's room for all sorts, we can visit where it suits us is how I look at it.

[Gunnar J]

.... Does the "competition mindset" really still exist in the keyboard-centric forums?

Nahh, to my experience I don't think that has been a real big problem so far.
But, if the commercial backdrop comes to the fore and the idealistic foundation that has been the basis for most forums disappears, I think it will be devastating.

Myself, I have sometimes mixed up the word diversity with competition due to language differences.
Diversity and voluntary knowledge sharing between "musicaholics" are great, but in my mind competition should not be a theme between the different forums.
Different forums serves different people and needs, and some serves us all very well.

[dexman]

I read through that whole thread and did find a few concering statements there, which I will look into later but, I am nnot sure it is really competition between the forums/websites but more between people who prefer one brand over another.

Although this forum is probably 80% Yamaha focused there is often discussion about Korg, Roland, Casio and many other brands too. They are all very relevant because some have features we would like to see on Yamaha keyboards, others perhaps do things a little better. Maybe they have better customer support in place etc.

The bottom line is we are all musicians. There is no need at all for division. Music is supposed to bring us together. We can certainly have differeng opinions but is there need for so much animosity?

I remember the members on one site that was frequented by Interconnects (people who installed on premise telephone systems), would bash and talk down competing forums that either "gave away too much information to end users" or were talked down because they "sold telephone system equipment to end users".

But that was a long time ago.

One the upside, someone gave you an honorable mention.

[dexman]

.... Does the "competition mindset" really still exist in the keyboard-centric forums?

Nahh, to my experience I don't think that has been a real big problem so far.
But, if the commercial backdrop comes to the fore and the idealistic foundation that has been the basis for most forums disappears, I think it will be devastating.

Myself, I have sometimes mixed up the word diversity with competition due to language differences.
Diversity and voluntary knowledge sharing between "musicaholics" are great, but in my mind competition should not be a theme between the different forums.
Different forums serves different people and needs, and some serves us all very well.

I like your reply to the topic over on keyboardforums.

[richkeys]

I was looking at keyboardforum's site and spotted a somewhat "snarkey" topic that took aim at various keyboard forums.

Does the "competition mindset" really still exist in the keyboard-centric forums?

When I first read that thread the other day I saw wildly exaggerated and mean-spirited comments made by one person there about this forum and moderators. I felt the need to defend this forum and commented about it there. I don't think the issue really is about competition between forums, which I agree there should be none. Rather I think it's about decency and appropriateness. Snarky banter is certainly OK but perhaps should be moderated in a public forum if it is mean-spirited. Just my thoughts.

Rich

[Saul]

That was my take on it too Rich. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion and we are certainly not shy in that respect here But I did see some comments there which would been discouraged here

There are decent, polite ways to express dissatisfaction with something or someone but there is no need to drag it down to gutter level.

That being said. It is their forum and they are entitled to run it however they see fit.

[dexman]

I was looking at keyboardforum's site and spotted a somewhat "snarkey" topic that took aim at various keyboard forums.

Does the "competition mindset" really still exist in the keyboard-centric forums?

When I first read that thread the other day I saw wildly exaggerated and mean-spirited comments made by one person there about this forum and moderators. I felt the need to defend this forum and commented about it there. I don't think the issue really is about competition between forums, which I agree there should be none. Rather I think it's about decency and appropriateness. Snarky banter is certainly OK but perhaps should be moderated in a public forum if it is mean-spirited. Just my thoughts.

Rich

Is happyrat1 known for posting stuff like that?

[dexman]

That was my take on it too Rich. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion and we are certainly not shy in that respect here But I did see some comments there which would been discouraged here

There are decent, polite ways to express dissatisfaction with something or someone but there is no need to drag it down to gutter level.

That being said. It is their forum and they are entitled to run it however they see fit.

I'm new to both forums. I will say that in my short time here, I haven't seen or felt that the Admins or Moderators have been anything like what is being said.

[richkeys]

Is happyrat1 known for posting stuff like that?

Hi Dex,
I won't get involved in discussing specific people on other forums or their screen names or getting into stuff on other forums, but it wasn't the original post that was the issue. That original post was just an opinion about PSR people posting a lot on their forum. The inappropriate comment was later on made by someone else, and I see you just pasted it in this thread. I would remove it, but that's just me.

Rich

[dexman]

Is happyrat1 known for posting stuff like that?

Hi Dex,
I won't get involved in discussing specific people on other forums or their screen names or getting into stuff on other forums, but it wasn't the original post that was the issue. That main post was just an opinion about PSR people posting a lot on their forum. The inappropriate comment was later on, and I see you just pasted it in this thread. I would remove it, but that's just me.

Rich

I'm one of the Admins on a telecom-centric site. We would (and have) zap those types of comments. No place for them. I haven't looked at the PSR website. Last I saw, it was thought that it would be locked down or taken down. Has it been brought back up?

[richkeys]

Dex,

Yeah I agree, but I don't think the comment should be repeated here either.

Rich

[dexman]

Dex,

Yeah I agree, but I don't think the comment should be repeated here either.

Rich

I just edited it out. I forgot that this particular board is public.