Question about Pacifica 120H

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Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by mwcd » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:35 pm

Hi all,

I have another question regarding these pacifica models which can show up on local classifieds.

1) Dating: There is a particular 120H with serial number with format letter-letter-#####-letter. As per a guide that I saw on the internet, this would indicate that the guitar was crafted in a year ending with 1. I am guessing it is either 2001 or 2011 and that it was made in Taiwan, but was wondering if anyone else can confirm.

2) Damages: Also, the guitar appears to have some cosmetic challenges (nothing that should impair its sonic characteristics). The interesting thing though is it appears the top layer varnish has been scruffed off, and while I would except the sub-varnish layer to be wood colour, it is grey. What could this be? The guitar is supposedly made of alder (maybe not solid alder) and is in natural finish.

Any assistance on this would help and thank you. Otherwise, with the coil tap, this seems like a nice model.
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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by Buzzard » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:39 pm

Using the guitardaterproject.org you should get results.

https://www.guitardaterproject.org/Yamaha.aspx

Mine has this number: HHN253269
and the result goes like this:

Your guitar was made in
Taiwan
on July 25th, 2011
Production Number: 3269
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Yamaha PAC-120H TBS

This model has COIL SPLIT. (pull-push switch on the tone control)

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To evaluate damage on the finish, you gotta give us some pictures to work with.

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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by mwcd » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:16 am

I actually have a lot of difficulty reading the serial number from the picture. I will post a picture of body and headstock. If you can figure it out let me know :D

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The body marks are a bit difficult to see but it looks like the natural finish has been scruffed off superficially and that there is a gray layer underneath.
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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by parametric » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:22 am

Looks like HJ1083128 to me . . . .

The Last digit looks more like the "8" than a zero (IMO)

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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by Buzzard » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:51 am

Let's assume that the number is: HJI083128 , it's a bit difficult to see in the picture. :?

That will give this result:

Your guitar was made in
Taiwan
on February 8th, 2013
Production Number: 3128

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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by mwcd » Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:42 am

That's helpful and seems more likely than 2001 as the 120H model I believe is from the 2010s.

What do you think of the colour of the damages?

Also, a general question about the pacifica's with split coils. Are the split coils thought to give a similar quality sound as a stand-alone single coil pickup or is there any compromise there?
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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by Buzzard » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:18 am

mwcd wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:42 am
What do you think of the colour of the damages?
I don't know.
IF your guitar has a thin veneer worn through, it might be the color of the glue …. BUT
Yamaha usually use solid wood for electric guitar bodies, and if yours is one, CLEAN IT, it's probably just dirt. :dance:
mwcd wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:42 am
Also, a general question about the pacifica's with split coils. Are the split coils thought to give a similar quality sound as a stand-alone single coil pickup or is there any compromise there?
a SPLIT humbucker is a single coil pickup, but magnets are not quite the same as an ordinary single coil pickup.

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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by Buzzard » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:28 am

Info on COIL SPLIT and COIL TAP : viewtopic.php?f=24&t=11053
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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by mwcd » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:13 pm

Thanks for the info, so many models to choose from! In the classifieds, 120h (200$), 311h (300$), 112 (200$), and even a 612hfm limited edition (575$) have arisen. This is in Canadian funds. I've been thinking that the 300 series has nice upgrades but maybe it is not enough to justify the $100 price difference. Any thoughts?
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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by balston11 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:11 am

You can find a fair amount of info on the Pacificas on my web site the relevant section starts here
http://www.alston-family.co.uk/pac/pacintro.php
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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by mwcd » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:03 am

Is there any known difference between the alder body used between the 100 series and 300 series these days? Is it known that one uses more pieces or laminates than the other?
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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by Buzzard » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:16 pm

mwcd wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:03 am
Is there any known difference between the alder body used between the 100 series and 300 series these days? Is it known that one uses more pieces or laminates than the other?
I doubt there is much if any difference in the woods from the 100 series to the 300 series.
The main upgrade is in the hardware.

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Re: Question about Pacifica 120H

Unread post by Rasha » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:00 pm

I've just bought one brand new 120H, last week. As I travel abroad a lot, for work, I need something affordable to practice, when I am staying longer in the country. This time I am in Albania, Tirana. Guitar market is not very developed here. So I went to the nearby shop, obviously a Yamaha dealer.
Narrowed my choice to PAC 112 and 120H. Actually, I was thinking 212 but it was out of stock.

120H won mainly to the aesthetics and splitting humbuckers. It was the only 120H in the shop. Black. 112s were B/W and reds.
I paired it with a small Line 6 spider 20 MKII.

As much as I didn't care about the sound, coz it's only for practice, but mainly playability, after a week of playing it, I may consider taking it home, once I am done here. It played almost perfectly out of the box. Perfect intonation, great tuning stability (with factory strings!), very good setup and it actually sounds great. I may lower the strings action a bit. Although it is quite nice the way it is now.
Can't believe that this guitar costs only 250 EUR, brand new!

Split humbuckers sound quite good. That was the reason I went for the 120H over 112. I like that warm neck humbucker sound. And when split, it sound just fine too. 112 single coils did not sound that much better to me, compared to 120H split humbuckers. Ok, I tried both on a small practice amp. So, can't really tell how both would sound on a bigger amp and bigger speakers.

I can't stop thinking, if I had this guitar 30 years ago, when I was beginning to learn how to play... I would probably suck too, but it would look and sound nicer. :lol:

EDIT: This one was made in Indonesia. The same as my beloved Revstar RS620. Great job, Yamaha!
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