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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by Saul » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:45 pm

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Hi,

Did anyone have any thoughts/insight into the 2 music-players I linked at the very top of this thread, please?

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Hard for me to give an opinion on these types of device because I personally don't see enough value in them. The iPhone is a much better at all of the things a music player does plus of course it does a lot of things a music player doesn't. You don't need to use the extra features but they are there if/when you want to use them. Also the screen on an iPhone is larger and higher definition.

The ONLY thing these players have is larger memory..in terms of additional card slots which of course the iPhone doesn't have.

An Android phone on the other hand has all the advantages of the iPhone with larger storage as a bonus.

For example you can now pick up a Huawei P9 with 32Gb on board for less than £100. The microSD slot will let you add a further 128GB. It also has a USB Type-C port for fast charging and a nice large 5" HD display. Oh and it has duel 12 Pixel cameras that produce excellent photos...if your into taking snaps of course.

So when you have that kind of value for money product out there vs a single function device like a music player I have trouble assigning value to the latter because I see so much more value in the former...if you see what I mean?
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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:18 pm

Saul,

Thanks for the explanation. I do see what you mean. But obviously we have different feelings about the same thing. To be honest, I would rather have a separate device for every task!; well, kind of.

I don't like mobile phones at the best of times. And of course the Amazon Fire is too big to carry around as a personal-music-player!

I have a 200GB SanDisk SD-card which is 3 quarters full now (of FLACs). So a port is vital (which I think the 2 music players I linked yesterday both offer). 16GB onboard storage is pretty much a spit in the ocean these days!

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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:23 pm

Hi,

I am going to pose my device questions on a different forum now and see what people might say. I know already that some of them are die hard iPod Classic owners, or else use an iPad.

Did you know that iTunes does not read FLAC format!?

I need to suss out this foobar/SD-card malarkey on my Amazon Fire asap. I am going to try posting on the foobar foobar forum again (nobody replied to me last week!).

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Unread post by Saul » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:26 pm

I don't use iTunes so it's not really an issue for me :) but yes I think good to get as many opinions as you can. In the end though only one opinion counts and thats yours :)
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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by Derek » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:23 pm

monsterjazzlicks wrote:
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No worries. Personally I like the "it does everything" convenience as I only have to remember to carry one thing about :) But appreciate that other people have different needs. :)
Derek,

I hardly even take my phone out with me anymore. I am becoming more recluse these-days. And if I am listening to music, I certainly don't wanted to be distracted by the phone or emails etc.

Ta.

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That’s easy. I turn the notifications off, have phone on do not disturb (other than family members can ring if needed) when the time is right.... I’m am the master of the technology, not the other way around :)

The thing I love about the iPhone is everything else it does which means I only have to carry one device. The fact that I can call or text on it is a side benefit ;)
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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by Derek » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:29 pm

monsterjazzlicks wrote:
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I'm with you Derek. iPhone does everything I need and the ONLY reason I don't use it for reading pdf magazines on the the go is the old eyes are not what they were. The screen is just a tad too small for me now.
I'm 50 this year. My eyes definitely are not what hey used to be. It's quite a worry really. But you have to take it on the chin.

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Long story, but when I was 32 I had a thrombosis in my right eye, which was like looking through opaque glass. This meant the blood vessels around the retina had blown up, occluding my vision in that eye. Took me a while to realise why I was struggling focusing on a page, until one night I looked at some sign writing on a van opposite my house and realised it was perfectly in focus in my left eye, but barely in focus in my right eye.

The quacks could never work out why it happened, as all the tests were clear and I was in perfect health. Their only theory was that my blood pressure went crazy for a short period and returned to normal quickly after. It was scary as I was told it usually only happened with geriatric diabetics, but as I was young(ish), age was on my side, and the blood vessels that had swellled were still elastic enough to diminish in size again and that my sight would be “mostly restored”. At the age of 53 years young, my right eye is still not 100% perfect and is full of floaters, but you have to count your blessings. It was a real scare to think what it was like to be losing your sight at 32.

The eye quack put me on a very old form of diuretic tablets to get the pressure in the eye down. The list of side effects was as long as your arm and turned (usually mild mannered) me into a monster. The missus nearly divorced me!

So I feel for you.
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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:56 pm

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That’s easy. I turn the notifications off, have phone on do not disturb (other than family members can ring if needed) when the time is right.... I’m am the master of the technology, not the other way around :)

The thing I love about the iPhone is everything else it does which means I only have to carry one device. The fact that I can call or text on it is a side benefit ;)
Derek,

The 'do not disturb' facility quite possibly is on my own new Nokia-3 handset. I just disabled as many apps, and uninstalled as many as I could, when I bought it in spring.

All the people I know with an iPhone have cracked-screens (I suppose this must be a weak-spot?). And they have all told me that Apple, when your contract is drawing to a close, send manipulative s/w updates which deliberately significantly slow your phone down, influencing you to upgrade your handset to a newer model! It may just be a rumour though.

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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:02 pm

Derek,

That's a sad story about your eyesight. I hope that you are managing OK now.

I thought mine was OK but then I went for my first ever vision check-up and SpecSavers a couple of years ago and they told me I definitely need them for reading (fair enough as I was 47). Then the next year I went back and they gave me some stronger ones (which I did need). Then more recently they have given me an extra pair for every-day-use (so you could say I need them for everything). Maybe next year they will tell me I need them for sleeping in! You could say that since I started wearing glogs my eyesight has gone downhill simply because I now RELY on them!

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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by Derek » Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:42 am

monsterjazzlicks wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:56 pm
Derek wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:23 pm
That’s easy. I turn the notifications off, have phone on do not disturb (other than family members can ring if needed) when the time is right.... I’m am the master of the technology, not the other way around :)

The thing I love about the iPhone is everything else it does which means I only have to carry one device. The fact that I can call or text on it is a side benefit ;)
Derek,

The 'do not disturb' facility quite possibly is on my own new Nokia-3 handset. I just disabled as many apps, and uninstalled as many as I could, when I bought it in spring.

All the people I know with an iPhone have cracked-screens (I suppose this must be a weak-spot?). And they have all told me that Apple, when your contract is drawing to a close, send manipulative s/w updates which deliberately significantly slow your phone down, influencing you to upgrade your handset to a newer model! It may just be a rumour though.

Paul
I've had iPhones since 2009 and have NEVER cracked a screen.

The issue on slowed performance has been reported, Apples response was that it was to manage failing battery performance. Draw your own conclusions on that. I often have a phone for a year or two out of contract and can't say I have ever noticed them slowing down.
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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by Saul » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:01 am

Same here. Never had a cracked screen or even scratches on an iPhone. Mine has been in a case since the day I got it. the ONLY reason people get cracked screens is because they don't look after their phone. It's an expensive bit of kit but because most people acquire one on contract they never really understand that they are holding a £700-1000 phone and treat it like it cost a few quid!

Like Derek I have also not had any slow downs. My phone is quite a few years old now and is just as fast as when I first got it.
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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by Derek » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:29 am

Yes, I forgot to mention that my phone is in a good case, which will help protect it to a degree.
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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:05 pm

Derek wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:42 am
I've had iPhones since 2009 and have NEVER cracked a screen.

The issue on slowed performance has been reported, Apples response was that it was to manage failing battery performance. Draw your own conclusions on that. I often have a phone for a year or two out of contract and can't say I have ever noticed them slowing down.
Derek,

Even though I hate my new Nokia-3, I still have a protective case and screen. I drop my phone at least once per day!

Apparently Apple admitted (on the news) to deliberately sending out negative s/w updates when they were confronted with the evidence. I never saw these bulletins though.

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Re: RE: Portable Music Player Device (help?)

Unread post by monsterjazzlicks » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:07 pm

Saul wrote:
Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:01 am
It's an expensive bit of kit but because most people acquire one on contract they never really understand that they are holding a £700-1000 phone and treat it like it cost a few quid!
£700 for a phone! I blank most of my incoming calls these days!
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Unread post by Saul » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:24 pm

Yeah I know but if you consider that something like the iPhone or the Huawei P9 that I mentioned earlier are like having a pretty powerful computer in your pocket that explains the price and like computers you can pay very little and get one that "does the job" or pay a lot and get something that does it all and does it fast and smooth. But yes I agree, that is a LOT of money for a phone.
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