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Chapman Stick . . . anyone . . . ?

Unread post by parametric » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:32 am

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I'm sure you guys in the String Section KNOW about this . . .

Me? - I've just come across it . . . . . and from how it's described, I think keyboard players might find it curiously accessible too. . .







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Unread post by Saul » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:14 pm

Definitely an interesting instrument. Never tried one and not even sure if it is something for me.

It does remind me a lot of an keytar in many ways and I think you are right that many keyboard players would find the transition to this instrument fairly easy. Not saying it is easy to play but the concept would sit well with keyboard players.
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Unread post by Derek » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:01 pm

Tony Levin (Peter Gabriel) is the master of the stick, as well as a thing called “Funk Fingers” (Look them up!)

The real surprise is to watch Nick Beggs (ex Kajagoogoo) on the stick. He is now one of the “go to” bass players in the world of progressive rock. This is from a cracking album by Rob Reid (Magenta) called Kompendium, which features a real who’s who of prog.

Awesome to watch the way you play a stick in this video (which is Beggs laying down the bass during a recording session), and it made me go back and listen to Kajagoogoo - Beggs was an awesome bass player back then.



PS: Jakob Jakszyk is doing the recording. He plays in King Crimson amongst other things.
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Unread post by Miks » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:15 pm

Derek wrote:Awesome to watch the way you play a stick in this video (which is Beggs laying don the bass during a recording session), and it made my go back and listen to Kajagoogoo - Beggs was an awesome bass player back then.
Oh yeah! Saw this video some years ago and was very impressed about his playing ability! I think he's a very underrated bass-player.Still like 'Too Shy' from Kajagoogoo where he played a very nice bass line... :D
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Unread post by Derek » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:25 pm

Oh, yes. Sometimes I dismissed pop music too quickly in my youth (as I was a rocker at the time) only to go back and realise what a bunch of great musicians they had.

Duran Duran were a case in point to me. I dismissed them due to their teeny bop boy band image, but behind those pretty faces and hair styles was a fine bunch of musicians when you actually sat and listened. For me the eye opener was when I listened to the bass lime on RIO and you suddenly realised what an awesome bass player John Taylor is. That got me into actually listening to them....

Likewise I initially dismissed Tears for Fears due to their “pop” hits, then one day I was in a car of my mates and he was playing “The Hurting” in full and I heard their “album songs” and was hooked. They were progressive with a small “p”

Other great pop bass player I am in awe of is Bernard Edwards (RIP) from Chic.

My lesson learnt (at a young age) don’t dismiss pop because it is pop. There is still absolute drivel out there and cheese, but also some gems. That was me growing older and wiser :D

Also happened to me with Kate Bush. I remenber going round to a mate’s house in 1979 to listen to the new Led Zep album and laughing because Kate Bush was in their collection. But they were rockers... How could they have such a record in their collection?! When I said that, the Kate Bush album was thrust into my hands and I was told I had to listen to that first. They were right. She was/is a musical genius.
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Unread post by Miks » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:43 pm

So true! Years ago I was flashed by Scritti Politti's 'Cupid & Psyche 85' (which I still like today!). Wood Beez, Absolute, Perfect Way - if you listen carefully you can hear many little 'pearls' within the music which is great. All those guys are very good musicians. ((i))
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Unread post by parametric » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:50 pm

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Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:25 pm
Also happened to me with Kate Bush. I remember going round to a mate’s house in 1979 to listen to the new Led Zep album and laughing because Kate Bush was in their collection. But they were rockers... How could they have such a record in their collection?! When I said that, the Kate Bush album was thrust into my hands and I was told I had to listen to that first. They were right. She was/is a musical genius.
Have to agree about Kate.

Quite about from being totally gorgeous (I was smitten immediately) There was this girl, sitting at a Grand Piano and

singing and Playing her own composition.

That ticked the boxes for me. Up 'til then, Girls had largely just sung and gyrated . . . .

The other thing about Kate's material is that it could only (really) have been written by her. It's SO distinctive.

As you say - an amazing talent. Thank God Dave Gilmore had the presence of mind to notice and introduce her to Harvest, eh?

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Unread post by 2ManyKeys » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:53 am

Want to hear some wild Chapman Stick... listen to King Crimson, Three of a Perfect Pair. Tony really goes to town with that thing. Heard that album in college. First time I ever heard a Stick.
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Unread post by Derek » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:12 am

And pretty much any Peter Gabriel album will have it on there

Good King Crimson recommendation BTW.
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Unread post by Buzzard » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:21 pm

IMO , looks terrible, sounds absolutely fantastic in the right hands.
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Unread post by Saul » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:41 pm

Buzzard wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:21 pm
IMO , looks terrible, sounds absolutely fantastic in the right hands.
Agreed. Doesn't look that inviting to play but sounds great (Y)
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parametric wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:50 pm
Derek wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:25 pm
Also happened to me with Kate Bush. I remember going round to a mate’s house in 1979 to listen to the new Led Zep album and laughing because Kate Bush was in their collection. But they were rockers... How could they have such a record in their collection?! When I said that, the Kate Bush album was thrust into my hands and I was told I had to listen to that first. They were right. She was/is a musical genius.
Have to agree about Kate.

Quite about from being totally gorgeous (I was smitten immediately) There was this girl, sitting at a Grand Piano and

singing and Playing her own composition.

That ticked the boxes for me. Up 'til then, Girls had largely just sung and gyrated . . . .

The other thing about Kate's material is that it could only (really) have been written by her. It's SO distinctive.

As you say - an amazing talent. Thank God Dave Gilmore had the presence of mind to notice and introduce her to Harvest, eh?

parametric
Yes we have a lot to be grateful for with Gilmour supporting her.

What amazes me is that she wrote most of the songs from the first album when she was 14. And she was single minded back then. EMI wanted to release “James and the Cold Gun” as the first single as a more rock oriented song, but Kate insisted on it being “Wuthering Heights” which I hated it when I first heard it.

One of the good things about the nights drawing in, is it is time to start listening to Kate again. For some reasonable I don’t listen to her in the summer, but albums like “The Kick Inside”, “Lionheart”, “Never Forever”, “Hounds of Love” will now get an outing and sound as fresh today as they did back then.
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Unread post by Derek » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:53 pm

Back OT

Doh! How can you talk about the chapman stick and not include “The Stick Men”...

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Unread post by Miks » Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:52 am

G R E A T !!!
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