Sustain Pedal

Covers the Yamaha MODX6, MODX7 and MODX8

Moderators: Derek, parametric, Saul

User avatar
RatherBeGigging
Member
Member
Posts: 33
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:30 pm

Sustain Pedal

Unread post by RatherBeGigging »

I am trying to use one of my old sustain pedals with MODX8. It is a Kurzweil pedal that also worked fine with an M Audio Axiom midi controller. When I plug it into the "sustain" foot switch jack on the MODX, notes ring automatically when the keys are pressed and the sustain stops when I press own on the pedal (i.e. the opposite of what I want).

Before I buy a new sustain pedal, is there a way to make my current pedal work correctly with MODX8?



User avatar
Les Turnbull
Member
Member
Posts: 125
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:30 pm

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by Les Turnbull »

Switch sounds like it is closed when pedal is up and open when depressed which is opposite to what you need , picture of the inner workings will show if it can be reversed or not . Some switches have three contacts on them and swapping the contacts around can reverse them .

User avatar
RatherBeGigging
Member
Member
Posts: 33
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:30 pm

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by RatherBeGigging »

Thanks for the reply. Unlike many of the newer sustain pedals, my Kurzweil pedal does not have any external switches for reversing the polarity. I opted to pick up a new one. Back in business!

User avatar
anotherscott
Member
Member
Posts: 370
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:36 pm

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by anotherscott »

I don't think it's so much a matter of "newer" pedals... I think it's more that the major keyboard manufacturers have little interest in assuring that their pedals work on anyone's boards other than their own. Whereas companies who are more invested in the "accessories" market have more of an incentive for a broader level of compatibility.

User avatar
keroleen
Posts: 1
Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2020 4:17 am
Location.: Canada
Hong Kong

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by keroleen »

I did not want to make a new thread as my question is pretty similar to this 2 year old thread.

But I just got a MODX and I cant seem to get my generic pedal working. It worked for the Casio CT-X (which is what I am switching from). I just need it to work as a sustain/damper for "traditional piano style" playing. The pedal does have a polarity switch.
I went through the manual and for some reason there is no mention of how to connect pedal or settings. Is it because it is unusual for this rig to use a pedal? or does this brand/line forces one to buy the branded one? I only had the rig for a day so maybe im missing something....thanks!

User avatar
parametric
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 4470
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:00 am
Location.: Near Watford, United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by parametric »

Welcome to the forums Keroleen . . .

Some boards require the pedal to be plugged in BEFORE you power-up in order to see" it . . . .

if you plug it in after power-on - it might not be seen . . .

As regards polarity - some boards will detect what you have and internally switch to suit, others will just work "backwards" IYSWIM?

I don't own a MODX - so it's just a maybe :wink:

parametric
Alesis Fusion 8SSD AND 6SSD - BOTH are 384Mb/120Gb SSD/Akai ADVANCE61/Yamaha MOXF6/1024Mb Flash Ram/Yamaha SY85/8.5mb vol/1024k non-vol/DX21/Roland MT32/Bachmann double overstrung Baby Grand Piano/Win10 Pro/Ubuntu MATE 15.0.4/iBook G4/Mac OS 10.4.6/ProTools 7.4/MBox2/M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96

NI Komplete11 Ultimate

Sector101 2x SYEMB06 / 4 x EXM-E3 128MB DRAM Module

BRAND NEW DSDD (720k) FLOPPY DISKS FOR SALE - http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/vie ... =22&t=9217

Watch out now! take care, BEWARE of the greedy leaders! They'll take you where you should not go - (George Harrison)

IT'S TRUE - "MONEY TALKS" - TO ME, IT MOSTLY SAYS "GOODBYE" ;-)
http://www.chrisnmiller.co.uk/Chris

User avatar
Stevie18
Product Specialist
Product Specialist
Posts: 278
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2018 4:49 pm

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by Stevie18 »

Hi,

The MODX does not require the pedal to be plugged in when powering up. That’s generally only the case for keyboards which can change the way the pedal works. In that case they assume that the pedal is not depressed when they are switched on and thus they can infer the type of pedal from that. MODX unfortunately can’t do that. So you either need a pedal which works as Yamaha (and Roland) pedals or a switchable one. Why the mentioned switchable one does not work I don’t know...

User avatar
parametric
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 4470
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:00 am
Location.: Near Watford, United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by parametric »

IIRC - Yamaha and Korg use opposite polarities . . . .

The cheaper Yamaha pedal I had would not work correctly with a Korg Digital Grand I once played years ago . . .

I modded the pedal with a reversing switch - and all was fine . . . . 8)

parametric
Alesis Fusion 8SSD AND 6SSD - BOTH are 384Mb/120Gb SSD/Akai ADVANCE61/Yamaha MOXF6/1024Mb Flash Ram/Yamaha SY85/8.5mb vol/1024k non-vol/DX21/Roland MT32/Bachmann double overstrung Baby Grand Piano/Win10 Pro/Ubuntu MATE 15.0.4/iBook G4/Mac OS 10.4.6/ProTools 7.4/MBox2/M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96

NI Komplete11 Ultimate

Sector101 2x SYEMB06 / 4 x EXM-E3 128MB DRAM Module

BRAND NEW DSDD (720k) FLOPPY DISKS FOR SALE - http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/vie ... =22&t=9217

Watch out now! take care, BEWARE of the greedy leaders! They'll take you where you should not go - (George Harrison)

IT'S TRUE - "MONEY TALKS" - TO ME, IT MOSTLY SAYS "GOODBYE" ;-)
http://www.chrisnmiller.co.uk/Chris

RUSSCAMPBELL11
Member
Member
Posts: 16
Joined: Fri May 15, 2020 5:26 am
Location.: United Kingdom

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by RUSSCAMPBELL11 »

Could someone suggest if it is worthwhile purchasing a sustain pedal for the MODX6 and which one is most suitable to go for?

User avatar
parametric
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 4470
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:00 am
Location.: Near Watford, United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by parametric »

Most Players would consider a Sustain Pedal essential, as an aid to expressive playing - especially on Piano . . .

The Yamaha FC4A pedal is a quality Sustain Pedal with a TS Jack on the end of the cable.

The FC3A looks similar, but will support "Half-Damping", but check that (a) You need it and (b) that the MODX can use it.

The FC3A has a TRS Jack on the end of the cable (to carry the Half-Damping message).

parametric
Alesis Fusion 8SSD AND 6SSD - BOTH are 384Mb/120Gb SSD/Akai ADVANCE61/Yamaha MOXF6/1024Mb Flash Ram/Yamaha SY85/8.5mb vol/1024k non-vol/DX21/Roland MT32/Bachmann double overstrung Baby Grand Piano/Win10 Pro/Ubuntu MATE 15.0.4/iBook G4/Mac OS 10.4.6/ProTools 7.4/MBox2/M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96

NI Komplete11 Ultimate

Sector101 2x SYEMB06 / 4 x EXM-E3 128MB DRAM Module

BRAND NEW DSDD (720k) FLOPPY DISKS FOR SALE - http://www.yamahaforums.co.uk/forum/vie ... =22&t=9217

Watch out now! take care, BEWARE of the greedy leaders! They'll take you where you should not go - (George Harrison)

IT'S TRUE - "MONEY TALKS" - TO ME, IT MOSTLY SAYS "GOODBYE" ;-)
http://www.chrisnmiller.co.uk/Chris

RUSSCAMPBELL11
Member
Member
Posts: 16
Joined: Fri May 15, 2020 5:26 am
Location.: United Kingdom

Re: Sustain Pedal

Unread post by RUSSCAMPBELL11 »

Thanks for that. I will check these ones out.

Post Reply