THR10II seems to drain the G10T battery when not in use

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THR10II seems to drain the G10T battery when not in use

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Howdy,

I bought the THR10II Wireless in November and also picked up the Line6 G10T transmitter to work with it.

When I'm done playing, I plug the G10T back into the input of the THR and it starts flashing to show it's charging. I then put the THR into standby by pressing the power button. The G10T continues to flash, suggesting it is still charging. However, if I then leave it for a few days (I don't use that amp often), when I go back, the G10T's battery is flat and I have to wait for it to charge again!

Is this expected behaviour? If not, does the fault lie with the THR or the G10T?

Any help greatly appreciated here.

Thanks,
Anthony


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Re: THR10II seems to drain the G10T battery when not in use

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Hey Anthony,

Yep, this is kinda expected as you can see below:
(From THRII owner’s manual)
“ NOTE
• After charging, unplug the Relay G10T from the THR-II Wireless.
• When the THR-II Wireless is turned off and the power adapter is connected, the Relay G10T is charged by simply connecting. However, the THR-II Wireless is initially set to turn off the power when the Relay G10T charging is finished. In this state, leaving the Relay G10T connected to the THR-II Wireless may result in discharge of the Relay G10T's battery.
• You can release the setting that turn off the power of the THR-II Wireless automatically, after the Relay G10T is charged, with the THR Remote.”

I haven’t tried deactivating the auto mode myself, but it says there is a way of doing it which means your G10T would be charging continuously as it looses its charge. But I’m not sure if it could damage the internal G10T battery. So, another thing to look out for...

Hopefully your G10T isn’t faulty at all.

Good luck an keep on playin’ !!!
Cheers!!


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Re: THR10II seems to drain the G10T battery when not in use

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Hi Anthony and Guitarknight, welcome to the forum and the string section. :D

Yes, leaving th G10T in will discharge it again,
well described by Guitarknight. Obrigado. ((i))

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Re: THR10II seems to drain the G10T battery when not in use

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Hi Peter,

Thanks for the welcoming, it’s a pleasure to be part of the community. I already found some very good info shared by other members here. Haha, I saw your signature “yamaholic”, I guess from bikes to music they cover a lot of ground indeed <->
Although, I wouldn’t consider myself one (I don’t own a bike - yet), my first guitar amp over 25 years ago was a second hand Yamaha G5 wooden cabinet bought in USA. It was an impressive and pretty little amp, but it disappeared in my mum’s attic, very strange. Anyway, now I’m a happy owner of a THRII, that’s Yamaha never letting me down :music-guitarred:

Cheers!! De nada!

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Re: THR10II seems to drain the G10T battery when not in use

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The G10T is switched on, when plugged into a 6.3mm jack. This happens because the tiny bolt near the shaft of the plug is pressed by the jack.
In normal use this is totally OK, because plugging the G10T to the guitar activates the transmitting.

But while charging it would not be necessary to switch on the transmitter. I guess the G10T contains enough "intelligence" that it does not transmit audio while charging - there is no sound source anyway that could be transmitted! Perhaps it detects the charging voltage coming from the THRII and simply charges the battery in this case without transmitting audio.
But at the moment the THRII detects end of charge and shuts down power, things get wrong:
G10T is still switched on because the tiny bolt stays pressed. But now there is no charging voltage any more and G10T can not distinguish if it is plugged into the guitar's jack or into the THRII's jack and uselessly transmits silence to the air draining its battery again.

I am not sure, however, how much or how long power is drained, because the manual of the G10T says:
"Sleep mode is activated after 4 minutes without any audio input to extend the battery life. The transmitter “wakes up”
automatically when the instrument is played.
So 4 minutes after end of charge G10T should enter energy saving sleep mode. But they do not mention, how much power is consumpted in "sleep".

You can uncheck the box "ECO Recharge" in THR-Remote's system menu. This should keep THRII powered on at end of charge. But of course this way the THRII's mains adapter consumes power all the time.

I read somewhere, that you could drill a hole in the sleeve of the THRII's INPUT jack so that the tiny bolt is not pressed when G10T is plugged in exactly the angle to fit hole and bolt.
But i am not sure, if G10T charges at all, if the bolt is not pressed. Perhaps I try this with an adapter cable's jack, before i drill the INPUT jack of THRII...


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Re: THR10II seems to drain the G10T battery when not in use

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This is bonkers! Imagine if your iPhone did this - you'd have to wake up in the middle of the night to unplug it when it reached 100% charge to ensure you didn't wake up in the morning with a dead phone!

I've tried the Eco mode on the THR, but it didn't seem to make much difference. I went back to play it a few days later and when I turned on the amp, the G10T started flashing red.


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This is bonkers! Imagine if your iPhone did this - you'd have to wake up in the middle of the night to unplug it when it reached 100% charge to ensure you didn't wake up in the morning with a dead phone!

I've tried the Eco mode on the THR, but it didn't seem to make much difference. I went back to play it a few days later and when I turned on the amp, the G10T started flashing red.
I agree, that this behaviour is not so good.
But if you uncheck ECO-Recharge and keep your THRII switched on while charging, the THRII should stay switched on after G10T is fully charged.
In this case it behaves similar to a smartphone connected to a charger over night. The difference is, that the whole THRII keeps switched on and
consumes power. Be sure, the mains adapter is connected to yout THRII. The G10T does not recharge at all, if the THRII runs on batteries and of course the THRII's battery would be drained over night as well without the mains adapter.

And I would not suggest to charge your phone over night as well. It is not good for the battery, because it charges full, after some time the phone has lost some charge again so the charging starts again and so on.


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Re: THR10II seems to drain the G10T battery when not in use

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Line6 G10T CBL (the usb charging cable.)

Here's an alternative to charge your G10T:
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